Hi Ben,

You mentioned that you have two antennas. What kind antennas you have? Do they 
have any radiation patterns different from each other? What’s distance between 
the antennas?
In any case you can affect to the noise level by combining two antennas that 
are at different locations. That beam forming generates nulls to the radiation 
pattern and those may attenuate less wanted signals at least in most 
directions. Result is improved S/N and so detection probability is higher. 
Another is issue is that there is less correlation of noise than signals in 
antennas in different locations or using different polarizations. In the best 
case the noise powers are added, but signal amplitudes are added and S/N 
improvement is 3 dB in ideal case. Well, signals from different directions may 
behave differently.
As Chris noted one of the local noise sources may be even “nulled out”, 
sometimes with a considerable improvement in S/N.

 

73, Reino OH3mA

 

From: Christopher Wawak via wsjt-devel 
[mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 1:15 PM
To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Christopher Wawak <ch...@wawak.org>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSPR and Diversity Receive

 

On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 3:35 AM Ben Gelb via wsjt-devel 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > 
wrote:

Have I actually improved the SNR
substantially? Or is it possible I am just affecting the SNR
calculation (I think it is roughly measuring the average noise level
in the 2.5kHz window, and comparing to peaks) in a way that doesn't
necessarily imply increased probability of decode?

 

Hi Ben! I live in a suburban area with lots of RFI, and use a multiple receive 
antenna phasing system which effectively eliminates much of the local noise my 
antennas pick up. In my experience, only local signals are affected and 
anything further than the antennas' near field seems to remain the same. Based 
on this experience, is it possible that you're affecting near field noise which 
might increase or decrease the snr depending on whether the noise is being 
cancelled? I am not an expert, just trying to do some radio in a noisy 
environment! Hihi.

 

KC2IEB Chris

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