On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:26:16 +0200, Steven Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It may sound odd, but as far as I can tell that's how it works per our
charter. (Though it seems a bit derogatory to say that about Ian, as he
quite clearly explains why changes are made).

There is no where in the charter that I can see, where it says the
only way to have something added to the spec is at the editors
discretion, can you point it out to me if there is?

http://www.w3.org/2007/03/HTML-WG-charter#decisions states:

  As explained in the Process Document (section 3.3), this group will
  seek to make decisions when there is consensus. We expect that
  typically, an editor makes an initial proposal, which is refined in
  discussion with Working Group members and other reviewers, and
  consensus emerges with little formal decision-making.

it then continues with stating what should happen in case consensus does not arise:

  However, if a decision is necessary for timely progress, but after
  due consideration of different opinions, consensus is not achieved,
  the Chair should put a question (allowing for remote, asynchronous
  participation using, for example, email and/or web-based survey
  techniques) and record a decision and any objections, and consider
  the matter resolved, at least until new information becomes
  available.


Why then after consideration the chairs decide that something should
it not be added to the spec, does it automatically need to go to a
vote?

Because that's how our charter works.


it can then be challenged if there is a groundswell of
opposition.

It can also be challenged if it's not in the specification. (Which is what is happening, by raising issues, sending e-mail, et cetera.)


We are not after all here asking for some loony tune addition with no
hope of adoption, we are asking for a very minor change  that is
proven to work and is well supported and has no or little
implementation overhead for browser vendors (please correct me if I am
wrong).

There's no exception clause for minor changes as far as I can tell.


--
Anne van Kesteren
<http://annevankesteren.nl/>
<http://www.opera.com/>

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