I'm not very much on bakefile or cmake.  I fairly competent in gnu make.  I 
know, I'm an old fart.  But I've been trying for the last 2 weeks (side bar 
project) to get wxArt2D to compile with no luck what so every.  Klaas have been 
very helpful, but it still doesn't work. 

Now wxWidgets with the configure script compiled straight out of the box with 
no problems what so ever.
>From MY POINT OF VIEW ONLY, cmake is an absolutly useless piece of software 
>that just adds another layer and language between the user and a makefile. It 
>should be removed from the face of software earth.

I know this is going to piss off proponents of cmake and I'm not trying to 
start a flame war, just giving my opinion
cmake seems to be for those experienced with cmake.
configure, any idiot an use, look at me, I can do it :)

BTW,  I'm 100% unix person, so this pc stuff is foreign.

Kleistereimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Klaas Holwerda wrote:
> Kleistereimer wrote:
> 
> 
>>in my eyes bakefile is another 'reinvent the wheel' 
> 
> 
> bakefile itself is indeed that, but there were reasons at that time, and it 
> was a job payed for within wxWidgets.
> I would have prefered Premake myself, and next Cmake.
> But the reality is that Cmake is very well maintained, has a big community, 
> even more now that KDE is using it.
> And it improved a lot the last few years.

yes. exactly my opinion. i doubt that bakefile will ever be used for
real projects besids wxart2d libraries, and dependend libs (which are
forced to use it by some extend)
so regardless of its theoretical usability i would just drop it.


> 
> Now that bakefile has improved a lot too, and things are organized, the need 
> for wxArt2D to use bakefile too, is much 
> less. The real problem was i think all the time things missing in 
> wxWidgest/bakefile, to make it easy to use combination 
> of libraries ( like wxLua and wxstedit and wxArt2D using those two. ).
> Now that we have this organized, bakefile or Cmake is much less a question.

> I am very glad Francesco came around, and started organizing wxLua (after all 
> we tried in wxArt2D), and now wxCode is on 
> its way.
> So really all is not for nothing, since wxArt2D bakefile was a great learning 
> case for what came after that.

yeah, but finaly the ability to use the bakefile make process should be
removed. as francesco pointed out already, it would result in a
maintainance nightmare..

user:  xyz fails to compile..
klaas: did u use bakefile or cmake?
user:  bakefile, because feature abc failed with cmake at line ..
...

> 
>>from the wxart2d
> 
>>team besides wxList etc, 
> 

oops, of course 'wxwidgets team' was meant:

"""
 in my eyes bakefile is another 'reinvent the wheel' from the wxwidgets
 team besides wxList etc, which hopefully will disappear soon.
"""


> 
> wxList ? That is not our invention, it is wxWidgets that came with that. I 
> have bin very busy to get rid of it, and 
> wxArt2D is now mainly using STL. And i am happy with that, wxList is really 
> clumsy :-)

me too :-)

> 
> Klaas
> 
> 

regards kl


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