On 8/19/23 08:56, Christopher Stacy via X11-users wrote:
I think the Linux community has decided to abandon the X Window System entirely. It's dead on every platform. So, yes, you are doomed.

Command-line stuff is just done directly with ssh (not involving xterm).

Remote access to graphical applications is all done by screen copying (blitting) using clever algorithms and the essentially infinite bandwidth that's universally available. Like VNC only better. The days of transmitting drawing commands to a remote window server are over. That was a good solution four decades ago, when the long-haul backbone networks were operating at 56 Kb/s. Today, things are thousands of times faster. Better to just efficiently transmit the picture, especially if you can take advantage of lower-level GPU functionality.

All hail Wayland.

X11 is obsolete.
Please update your programs.

I think that "dead on every platform" is a bit premature. Although this is an Apple list my primary laptop is a Dell running Ubuntu 20, which reverted from Wayland to X. It's not the latest, but still supported, and not that old. I also have a 27" iMac, a mini and a small MacBook Air. Is Wayland available on Mac? What would be really useful would be the ability to run a Mac application on a Mac (of course) but with the display on an iPad. An X-server for iPad doesn't exist, but Wayland?

I have been using X for those 40 years but it's been a while since I used X-clients other than xterm, but I've been using ssh entirely for some years. I suppose there must now be better replacements for 'Putty' on Windows. My clients always gave me Windows boxes with X-server applications to use.

I obviously need some education on Wayland. Where would be a good place to look? Everything I've found concentrates on it being a purely localhost thing. We used to run Firefox (or Netscape?) on Unix servers displaying on a PC X-server. Are those sorts of things available on current VMs? On Docker?

I would appreciate any brief answers or pointers, but as this is an 'X' list I don't expect a discussion.

Thanks
David

- Computers since '69, Unix since '83, Macs since '84. (Yes, I'm retired :-) )


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