On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 23:02:42 +0100
René J.V. Bertin via X11-users <x11-users@lists.apple.com> wrote:

> if you need X11 on a Mac that also needs to run Mac applications but
> if you do all your work on Linux anyway it'd make more sense to run
> that OS on the Apple hardware 

All my work is on Linux.  I use others' work on macOS.  

I use macOS to display PDFs (etc.) and to manage most non-technical
email.  I use Safari and Chrome for the web.  Also, silly things like
the calendar and contacts and "notes" are synchronized with my phone
and ipad.  

I've never seen a Linux desktop that holds a candle to Apple's GUI.  I
have my complaints about it, too, of course.   My objective is to
minimize the time I spend putzing with the computer.  I let Apple
update it from time to time, usually after XQuartz crashes, which
happens every few months.  

> >At the user level, the environments are indistinguisable.  emacs
> >is emacs.  
> 
> Oh, right. Forget what I said about overdimensioned hardware ;)

Is there such a thing as overdimensioned hardware today?  ;-)   On a
system where the *web browser* uses 1.5 GB?  

I recommend emacs to everyone learning to program, and occassionally to
the experienced programmer.  Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping
dates from when 8 MB was a lot of memory. emacs is sometimes maddenly
slow, but show me an editor that isn't.  

Why emacs?  Because knowledge, like interest, compounds.  

1.  emacs is the only editor for which the extension language is the
implementation language.  The entire envrionment is consistently
modifiable and extensible.  

2.  emacs has great community support.  This giant old creaky editor
keeps keeping up.  There is a packaging system now, for example, and an
XQuartz implementation. There is LSP support.  

The consequence is the usual Unix story: if you want it, it's likely
been done already.  For tiny personal choices, like the format of the
title bar or mode line, there is a rich set of options.  Wherever you
turn, for things big and small, the method and syntax is exactly the
same.  In 25 years, I can't think of anything I learned about emacs
that is now obsolete.  I'm sure in your experience, too, that's not
true of a lot of software.  

Anyway, enjoy your laptop.  If you don't, you're not doing it
right.  :-)  

--jkl
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