> Hi Charles, > > Thanks for your work on this. I do wonder whether it makes sense to > have quite so many dependent styles in the repository though. > I have been wondering if it would make sense to 'push' users and > publications to use well known existing styles more. I don't think pushing users is an options - if you submit an article to a given journal, you need to make sure to follow that journal's citation style. Dependent styles help users identify these styles - you can't really expect a user to know that a given style is, say "Elsevier's Harvard with Titles". There is also the fact that Endnote's 5000 or so styles are still being held up as proof that they provide users with oh so many options - dependent styles (which I assume Endnote uses in some way, too) help us compete with that. Finally, I don't see a downside - on Zotero's repository you can remove dependent styles with one click, it'd be easy for you to implement the same at Mendeley.
As for pushing publishers - sure, that'd be great. There are way too many different citation styles. But that didn't even work when there weren't good options to automate that, so I don't really see how we (or anyone else) is going to convince publishers now. >> I'll have to bite the bullet at some point, though, I agree! > > Less painful that dealing with problems arising if your users download > styles with bugs that would be caught by a validator though. while I agree that styles should be validated before being committed (maybe use a pull request if you can't validate?), there are a lot of people watching the repository - we'd spot invalid styles within hours and fix it. Also, again, I don't know how you handle that at Mendeley, but on the Zotero repo invalid styles are marked as such - you could easily do the same. Best, Sebastian > > Regards, > Rob. > > On 30 June 2012 23:50, Charles Parnot <[email protected]> wrote: >> Go figure: writing a script to create those styles sounded like fun, but >> somehow installing a validator makes me want to run away ;-) >> >> I'll have to bite the bullet at some point, though, I agree! >> >> charles >> >> On Jun 29, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: >> >>> Awesome! >>> >>> On this ... >>> >>>> Only issue is I don't have a good way to systematically validate the >>>> style, as I typically use the web interface. >>> >>> Time to install a local validator, and write a trivial batch script! >>> >>> If you're using brew on your Mac, just do 'brew install rnv` to get >>> going. Or compile it yourself. >>> >>> http://www.davidashen.net/rnv.html >>> >>> MUCH faster and more flexible than a web service. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> xbiblio-devel mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel >> >> -- >> Charles Parnot >> [email protected] >> twitter: @cparnot >> http://mekentosj.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> xbiblio-devel mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > xbiblio-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel -- ------ Sebastian Karcher Ph.D. Candidate Department of Political Science Northwestern University ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ xbiblio-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel
