On Jul 2, 2012, at 2:36, Robert Knight <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Charles,
> 
> Thanks for your work on this.  I do wonder whether it makes sense to
> have quite so many dependent styles in the repository though.
> I have been wondering if it would make sense to 'push' users and
> publications to use well known existing styles more.

BMC is a great example of that: I was impressed all their journals follow the 
same guidelines. Unfortunately, no other publisher has such a systematically 
consistent format for references.

As for the users: one Papers user asked for the style for Malaria Journal. 
Should I have told him to use 'BMC informatics'. And tell the same to every 
user that ask? I don't think we should put the burden of figuring out which 
style to use I the user. Their goal is to write a paper, not to spend time 
figuring out why a colon is used, instead of a period in the references. In 
fact, nobody should care about this, but publishers do, unfortunately, for some 
weird reasons. So it's not just a number battle with EndNote, it's a usability 
issue. It really makes the user's life better if the style for the journal they 
want is right there. I think.

Charles

> 
>> I'll have to bite the bullet at some point, though, I agree!
> 
> Less painful that dealing with problems arising if your users download
> styles with bugs that would be caught by a validator though.
> 
> Regards,
> Rob.
> 
> On 30 June 2012 23:50, Charles Parnot <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Go figure: writing a script to create those styles sounded like fun, but 
>> somehow installing a validator makes me want to run away ;-)
>> 
>> I'll have to bite the bullet at some point, though, I agree!
>> 
>> charles
>> 
>> On Jun 29, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
>> 
>>> Awesome!
>>> 
>>> On this ...
>>> 
>>>> Only issue is I don't have a good way to systematically validate the 
>>>> style, as I typically use the web interface.
>>> 
>>> Time to install a local validator, and write a trivial batch script!
>>> 
>>> If you're using brew on your Mac, just do 'brew install rnv` to get
>>> going. Or compile it yourself.
>>> 
>>> http://www.davidashen.net/rnv.html
>>> 
>>> MUCH faster and more flexible than a web service.
>>> 
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