I added the broader issue, and linked the two, here:
https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/issues/141
On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 10:57 AM Bruce D'Arcus <bdar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To be clear, I'm not sure we won't fix. It's just a possibility.
>
> This issue is tied into a somewhat complex issue: whether we support the
> feature ("narrative citations"), it needs to maintain a current original
> design goal, which is that an author can switch between note and other
> style types without editing their text.
>
> I couldn't figure out how to reconcile those in the past, but would be
> happy if someone did.
>
> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 10:46 AM Malte Roedl <
> malte.ro...@postgrad.mbs.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your quick reply, Bruce.
>>
>> I have created a github issue, but I could unfortunately not tag it as
>> "wontfix" myself.
>>
>> https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/issues/140
>>
>> In my case, I will probably use latex (biblatex-apa) for this, as the
>> journal is very picky about their citations.
>>
>> In case anyone is interested, another option to solve this is to use
>> and="symbol" and use a regex for post-processing.
>> This one works:
>> "([&])(?=\s+(?:[\w-]+ ){1,3}[(])" -> "and"
>> (unless there are punctuation characters in between the ampersand and
>> the year, e.g. for first names, or there is random ampersands followed
>> by brackets in the text)
>>
>> On Fri, 2017-10-06 at 10:31 +0000, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
>> > CSL has no concept of a "narrative citation," which would explain why
>> > there's no way to distinguish formatting based on it.
>> > There's been discussions about it, but am not remembering where we
>> > ended up.
>> > If we don't already have it, we should have a general issue ticket on
>> > GitHub for the broader feature, and include a note about this
>> > particular detail there.
>> > Even if we label it "won't fix," at least we have the documentation
>> > in one place.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017, 5:44 AM Malte Roedl <malte.ro...@postgrad.mbs.ac
>> > .uk> wrote:
>> > > Hello everyone,
>> > >
>> > > according to the APA style guidelines, which have many adoptions in
>> > > various CSL-styles, it is mandatory to have 'and' connecting
>> > > authors in
>> > > narrative, and '&' connecting authors in parenthetical
>> > > citations[1].
>> > >
>> > > None of the styles I tried were accommodating for this rule.
>> > >
>> > > So then I've tried to build a if-else-control structure to identify
>> > > whether it is a narrative or a parenthetical citation, but it seems
>> > > that the processor would do that automatically by using "prefix"
>> > > and
>> > > "suffix"?
>> > > Is there any way to identify in the csl-file what type of citation
>> > > is
>> > > calling the evaluation?
>> > > Or even better, is there already an existing style that
>> > > accommodates
>> > > for my issue (I could not find one, but that may be because of very
>> > > vague and ubiquitous search terms).
>> > >
>> > > Many thanks!
>> > > Malte
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [1] e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style#In-text_citations
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