Count me in on a committee!  As a few of us discussed
on the long drive to Telemark this past weekend, we
could possibly tap into the expertise at the Gogebic
Community College's Ski Are Management program.   
(http://www.gogebic.cc.mi.us/departments/sam_div/) 
They might even have a connection to good quality used
equipment.  Maybe a student could use this as a case
study for a "senior" project.

Until then...think snow.
Dirk Mason


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> Great Scott, we should form a committee
> 
> basically, the response i got from the city is that
> they are willing to
> donate the 1) water and 2) power
> 
> Remember, however, the city is interested in snow
> both for skiing and for
> sledding on the big hill, i think it's important to
> make sure this doesn't
> become a "skier only" effort, if it's billed as
> something for all winter
> sports people, it stands a much better chance of
> gaining support of Ald.
> Linda Bellman (who represents the Elver area) and
> the rest of the city
> council
> 
> My dream is a 2K lighted ski loop running along the
> base of the hill in
> front of the new shelter, it would follow the old
> Gammon Road (which is now
> overgrown and used as a footpath) and loop back
> parallel to the bike path.
> More snow could be blown on the gentle slope in
> front of the shelter for a
> kid's play area
> 
> Having a man-made snow loop would allow scheduling
> of lessons, kids
> programs, high school practice, adult racing, etc. I
> would be the most used
> Nordic Center in southern Wisconsin and in low snow
> years would draw skiers
> from Milwaukee, Illinois and Iowa
> 
> Of course, when nature participates, the entire
> Elver Trail system would
> kick into gear
> 
> This is not a pipe dream folks, City parks director
> Jim Morgan is on board
> but it's up to skiers to make it happen
> 
> Any experts in snowmaking out there? 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Bachmeier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 01/15/2002 11:25 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [XC] making snow at Elver Park?
> 
> 
> Mike Ivey brought up the subject of generating
> interest in snow making
> at Elver Park at last night's MadNorSki
> meeting...and as I cycled home
> from said meeting, I thought that we should try to
> keep some momentum
> going on this idea.
> 
> I talked a bit today to a co-worker who helps with
> the snow making
> activities at Blackhawk Ski Club. As one would
> expect, snow making
> like they do at the downhill places is complicated
> and expensive, 
> with the major concerns being:
> 
> * water source
> 
> * high-pressure pump(s)
> 
> * piping 
> 
> * snow guns
> 
> However, if we try to keep it simple and
> small-scale, I think adding
> *some* snow making capability at Elver is possible.
> If MadNorSki has
> some money in the bank, and if there is support from
> Madison Parks,
> let's capitalize on these positives. We'd probably
> need MadNorSki 
> volunteers to operate the snow making equipment, but
> I think there
> are enough of us (myself included) who would gladly
> do so if it meant
> skiing earlier, better, and longer at Elver.
> 
> With our limited monetary resources, we might be
> restricted to
> low-tech devices like the "Backyard Blizzard"
> 
> http://www.backyardblizzard.com
> 
> At $2000 each, though, perhaps we could set up a
> network of 3 to 5
> of these units to blow some snow around the flats at
> Elver. I doubt
> we could set something up to cover the wooded trail
> sections, but
> maybe we could also blow a snow pile to be used for
> filling in
> bare spots and whatnot in other sections of the
> Elver trail.
> Just having a narrow oval track of reliable snow
> would please a lot
> of folks in snow-lean times like these.
> 
> Anyway, these are my fleeting thoughts so far on the
> Elver Snow
> Making Idea. Perhaps MadNorSki has already done
> feasibility studies
> in the past -- I'm relatively new to the Club, so I
> don't know.
> But if some sort of Ad Hoc "Snow Making Committee"
> is needed to
> look into this further, I'm willing to volunteer...
> 
> -Scott
> 
> --
> Scott Bachmeier   University of Wisconsin - Madison
> / SSEC / CIMSS
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