yes, calm down. It’s developer list for God’s sake

I didn’t have any intentions to insult anybody

but, if you want to be insulted - be insulted, I really don’t care

20 min, WOW! 20 MINUTES !!!!

that is just unspeakable terror :-))))))

I don’t see any of terrible things you described (and just for your information 
I started to work with Xcode

from day one it was released many years ago)

as about “3 bounces” I hope you understand difference between the very first 
Xcode run

and second run

cheers

 dm






> On Oct 20, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Alex Zavatone <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Calm down?  That's pretty insulting.  The reporter just wasted 20 minutes of 
> their day waiting for Xcode to simply launch.
> 
> The experience was just like my 16 minute commits through Xcode to a 
> Collabnet SVN server.
> 
> Forced our team to purchase 3rd party source code tools.
> 
> Even installing Xcode 6.0.1 took several minutes before it launched on my 
> brand new work MBP.
> 
> Makes me remember the old OSX claim of every app launching within 3 icon 
> bounces as a user experience goal.
> 
> This new process that causes atrocious first launch times from a company that 
> is supposed to be all about user experience just shows how that very company 
> misses the boat.
> 
> The intention here is for the readers not to view this as ranting. The goal 
> is to bring attention to the issue in the interest if getting it fixed so we 
> don't have to live with such a sub par experience.
> 
> Sent from my iPod Touch. Please pardon typos.
> 
> On Oct 20, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Dmitry Markman <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> Please, calm down
>> I installed Xcode 6.1 on my Mac Book Pro 10.9.5, my Mac Pro, iMac, Virtual 
>> machine images (Mavericks and Yosemite) many times starting from betas. 
>> Every time I saw that info widget about verifying, but every single time it 
>> was visible for about 30 seconds
>> I'm sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience, but there is no need 
>> to scream
>> dm
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 08:09, norbert <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> after downloading the new Xcode 6.1 manually from the Developer pages 
>>> (available only days after it was actually stated as “available” there, 
>>> ts), and copying it to /Applications, trying to launch it just greeted me 
>>> with a window saying “Verifying Xcode.app”. And nothing more happened.
>>> 
>>> After more than 20 eventless and Xcode free minutes on my MacBookPro in 
>>> 10.9.5, I decided I had enough of this nonsense. I had to reboot to get rid 
>>> of this weird window.
>>> 
>>> I have no idea what is happening there, but if Apple wants to prevent us 
>>> from using their Xcode software, they are hugely successful.
>>> 
>>> This is the worst user experience ever!
>>> 
>>> To prevent this nonsense, open Terminal, and clear the xattrs for Xcode, 
>>> and it will actually launch:
>>> 
>>> xattr -cr /Applications/Xcode.app
>>> 
>>> Thank you Apple for such a horrible user experience.
>>> 
>>> Norbert M. Doerner
>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> 
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