I'd have to agree. I have used XC soar for years on different
devices, each time trying to integrate it into my day to day club
flying and finding it too difficult. Now I have it on my galaxy S2
Runs very smoothly, updates itself, looks good, and is always in my
pocket with me. With the addition of a standard car window mount and
an extra battery pack, I can jump into any glider I want and have a
moving map glide calculator.
These fact it is so easy to use XCsoar now means I use it all the
time, rather than spending effort getting a system setup just
for practicing for and going to comps. Thanks again to the dev
team!
Tom
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From: "Folken"
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Sent:Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:55:58 +0200
Subject:Re: [Xcsoar-user] Xcsoar-user Digest, Vol 63, Issue 5
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:01:56PM +0000, David Lawley wrote:
> I could not agree more, I have yet to see any reason to replace my
Ipaq'a for any of the current offerings.
> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:33:56AM +0200, Tobias Bieniek wrote:
> > > I have a Streak now since a few days ago and yesterday I was in
the
> > > bright sunlight with it for the first time. I was very
impressed. Never
> > > seen any device/display like it, not even the old iPAQs... Even
though
> > > it's discontinued now it's still available on ebay and other
sites.
> >
> > I went flying with my HTC Desire Z in full sunlight. It works
quite well,
> > while its worse than the streak and i wouldn't give it a general
> > recomendation, its useable and better than all the ipaqs. (The
ipaq Era
> > is really over now.)
> >
> > Samsung Galaxy SII btw. is also very readable in direct sunlight.
> >
> > - Folken
> >
>
> And yet I find my HTC Desire totally unusable in any kind of
sunlight, even for making calls let alone using in the glider !
The HTC Desire Z has been released in 2010 September and is a
different device compared to the HTC Desire. (Release
date February 2010)
> I use an HP 3970 still running ppc2000 and it works faultlessly
with xcsoar 6.1.2, the ipaq era is far from over.... there must be
hundreds still out there working in gliders, running older versions of
xcsoar, winpilot and seeyou.
> We should be targetting these users and converting them to xcsoar 6
rather then telling people they need 'new' hardware.. Glider pilots
are afterall notoriously 'carefull' with their money ;)
See and this is a no-brainer with the android version. It just
updates
itself, if so desired.
> IPAQs are.. cheap, reliable, low power, have good cradles, all in
all an excellent solution.
Cheap:
IPAQs go for more than 120 Euros on segelflug.de->kleinanzeigen [1].
For that
you can get several cheapo android devices. And you probably need a
phone
anyway. A dell streak 5 costs currently 230 USD on Ebay.
Reliable:
I see this in my club: constant issues with stuff blocking com ports,
batteries that are dead, screen calibration that does not work,
constant
reconfiguration/reinstallation once the power has gone, baud rate
issues, different versions work on different devices.
And nevermind trying to sync one of these IPaqs with a windows 7.
Sure these things can be managed. But that requires
knowledge/discipline which seems
not to be given with the average glider pilot, and is also uncessary
as
there are technological solutions for such issues.
Power:
Since any android phone can be charged from USB, its minimum charging
current is 5V/500mA. Ipaqs use the same.
Technology:
Just having some sort of internet connection, makes it way easier to
get
tasks,airspace,metar,maps for your device. Also uploading to olc is
simple, no swapping sd cards.
Future additons could include an online pilot logbook, in which the
entries include the gps track, pictures and video.
With the IOIO-Board you can hook up to 4 serial devices. E.g.
Electric Vario, Flarm and the VHF Radio.
In additon there are ports and
pins which could be connected to gear, flap and ballast switches.
Additional buttons and even gauges could easely be controlled. (E.g.
external Vario indicator)
It also supports the one-wire-protocol, with which additional sensors
such as temperature and humidity could be hooked up to it.
One could use the TAS and the g sensors built into the phone to
create a
stall warner.
The integrated compass could assist in wind calculation. (remember
the
600 EUR compass addons for the LX-Series of Flightcomputers?)
The IPaqs where good in their day. Overengineered and broadley
available. But availabilty has been scarce as of this year. Its
hardware resources are limited. Its operatingsystem should have died
a
thousand deaths years ago.
Besides, with android, the project gets a lot more exposure. This
means
more users, more developers. More Bugfixes, more features, better
tested
and therefore more reliable software. Max recently reported that
there
where more than 5000 XCSoar installations on Android.
So with all this in mind, i would not go for an ipaq.
- Folken
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