On Tuesday 16 Sep 2003 09:19, Aslak Helles�y wrote:
> >Sounds like a good idea :-) Have we got any timescales on XDoclet2 ? (to
> > give me an idea of whether to leave plugin modifications til then)
>
> Not sure what kind of timescale you're asking for. XDoclet2 has been
> usable for a while. But the plugin developer community is too lazy to
> start developing plugins for it. I'm not quite sure what causes that.
> What do you think? Lack of documentation? Lack of publicity? Lack of
> will to contribute?

From my perspective (someone outside the project, have been using XDoclet 1.2 
for 6 months) it is lack of publicity of its status. People go to the front 
page of XDoclet on sourceforge and see that "XDoclet 2 development has just 
started and that it is still far from useable". People want something for 
their production systems and want stability so I guess that one line puts 
them off. Additionally they go to the SF download page and see xdoclet 1.2 
(beta3). No mention of 2.0.

If its usable and relatively stable (no radically changing API's etc) why not 
have a beta release of 2.0 and put it on SF downloads page ? It would be a 
push for people to start looking at it. You already have a doc saying what is 
new in 2.0 (though it says that it is a proposal only). What about having the 
online documentation for 2.0 somewhere on the site ? Change the site so that 
it has a front page, and you can go off to docs for 1.2 or 2.0 depending on 
your interest (with something saying what 1.2 is for and what 2.0 is for).

Andrew mentioned that it will be up to plugin developers to write and maintain 
their own plugins for 2.0. From the Maven perspective there are enough people 
around who use the xdoclet plugin and who are experienced enough in writing 
Maven plugins who could easily get it updated to use 2.0 quick enough. For 
example, if we are maintaining the Maven plugin from 2.0 onwards (and it 
would be in plugin.jelly, plugin.properties format if that was the case), I 
would have it updated with those changes I want and get it released asap - 
the changes are not radical so within a day - and released on Maven within a 
week - it certainly isn't lack of will to contribute (not on my part anyway 
:-). The thing that would motivate people would be a beta release of 2.0


Hope that helps


-- 
Andy



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