Let me give you a more global context of what I am trying to do and maybe there is something else I am not thinking of.  Many companys wrote servers conforming to a standard and each have their own extensions.  I want to validate that I got a Car and process the Car even though the Car was really a CompanyXCar(ie.  I am ignoring data from other namespaces).  I also can't download each schema as it talks to each server as the app is typically used in very secure locations with no access to the web.  

    Basically, I want to validate a car is a car and not worry about extra data that was put in by companies that extended the schema.(It would be near impossible to change the standard schema at this point)
thanks for any direction on this,
dean

Sandy Gao wrote:

  
ie.  if it only knew about a
car, it would process the car and ignore the Ford specific data, or
Honda specific data depending on what type of car it actually received.
    

But if your Honda car claims that "I'm a Honda, and you have to treat me as
a Honda" (via xsi:type), then the schema processor has no choice but to
tell you I'm sorry.

The schema spec is very clear on this. When there is an xsi:type in the
instance document, its value "must resolve to a type definition", which
indicates that if such resolution fails, there is an error.

You might want to consider <redefine>ing the "standard" schema, instead of
extending it. This way, you don't need to specify "xsi:type" in your
instance. And you can switch between the "standard" and the "redefined"
schemas using an entity resolver (or grammar pool in Xerces).

Hope this helps,
Sandy Gao
Software Developer, IBM Canada
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    yeah, can't really do that seeing as how the protocol is a
standard(ie. The whole xsd down below is the standard and we want to
extend it and add a proprietary feature the protocol doesn't have due to
customer requests), and you know how slow standards change.  I really
need to accomplish it by extension.  Should I ask the xerces developers
then????
    I personally don't like the any element and much prefer the object
oriented-ness of schemas where you can extend other base types and add
data to them though I haven't gotten them to work yet.  ideally, an
application would just ignore extra data.  ie.  if it only knew about a
car, it would process the car and ignore the Ford specific data, or
Honda specific data depending on what type of car it actually received.
thanks,
dean

Mike Rawlins wrote:

  
At 05:27 PM 11/19/2003 -0700, Dean Hiller wrote:

    
good question.  did a quick grep...processContents is not found in
the entire schema(schema is 300 pages).
Root element looks like so

<xsd:element name="Root" type="RootType/>
<xsd:complexType name="RootType">
     <xsd:sequence>
         <xsd:element name="Element" type="ElementType"/>
     </xsd:sequence>
</xsd:complexType>

<xsd:complexType name="ElementType">
  <xsd:sequence>
      <xsd:element name="data1" type="xsd:string"/>
  </xsd:sequence>
</xsd:complexType>
      
Hmm, not quite what I was expecting.  If you want to play around with
another approach, you might instead do something like:

<xsd:complexType name="ElementType">
  <xsd:sequence>
    <xsd:element name="data1" type="xsd:string"/>
    <xsd:any namespace="##any" processContents="skip">
  </xsd:sequence>
</xsd:complexType>

Then, in your instance document try:

<Element>
  <data1>some data</:data1>
  <ava:data2>more data</ava:data2>
</Element>

I'm not sure I've got the syntax exactly correct, but this may be
closer to what you want and at least get you started.   This is
approach, of course, just deals with the instance document and
schema.   I've had a few problems with a similar approach with Xerces,
but didn't have time to track them down to closure.  However, this or
something similar *should* work.

Mike

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Using XML with Legacy Business Applications (Addison-Wesley, 2003)
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