2009/6/8 Leo Sauermann <leo.sauerm...@dfki.de>: > about freedesktop.org and bugzilla/trac.... > > It was Evgeny Egorochkin who said at the right time 05.06.2009 18:35 the > following words: > > > > freedesktop is a problem. We've got a bugzilla product at FDO, but we don't > > really have any control over it. It appears we can't import or export > anything. > > Also FDO is very well known for taking a lot of time to process even trivial > requests(such as adding a project). You can forget about infrastructure > requests. > > So if we use FDO, we're stuck with a small set of software some of which is > out of sync with reality(CVS) and to which we don't have a full access(such > as > for import/export). > > On the other hand we have semanticdesktop.org, sf.net and xesam.org > > > we established oscaf.sf.net in februaray to let anyone willing to work on > ontologies join there. > > I find bugzilla too complex for the task at hand and I like the tight > integration of SVN + WIKI + Tickets in TRAC. > > so: > freedesktop.org : > * endlessly complex loopholes to get an account (sending a gpg key to a gpg > server, creating an ssh key, creating a user account for bugtracker to > create a bug to .... ???) > * bugzilla > * git > > sf.net: > * everyone has an account, if not it takes 1 minute to make one, only > complexity is remembering your name and password > * trac > * svn > > personally, I am much more in favor of sf.net because its the platform i > also used for aperture and other projects I am member of. I also like TRAC > and SVN as we use it a lot. > Also we basically know how ontology management with SVN+TRAC works based on > the experience in dev.nepomuk.semanticdesktop.org > > But I thought since all the others are freedesktop.org and git fans, we must > use that. If the question is up to discussion, I much more favor > sourceforge+trac+svn. > we can reuse the oscaf.sf.net project there or make a new one if you don't > like the name, then suggest a better one and sign us up. > Setting this up is piss-easy, as you all probably know from past sf.net > experience. performance may suck from time to time, but so be it, they do a > good job otherwise. > > I would not "vote" about this, I would rather like to have an agreement > where everyone understands the problems and personal background and > preferences of all parties involved, and then come to a conclusion that fits > our small group best.
As I was the one to take the "fight" with us getting Xesam up on feedesktop.org back in the days, I should probably say something about this... I don't think we should use the FDO infrastructure because of three things: 1) High barrier to entry for non-experts, 2) Extremely slow response time from sysadmins, 3) Very little flexibility. So we need a system that is the opposite of these three points. I think a combination of SF + an external we-own-it shell+web server is what we need. So what I propose: SF: svn trac Own server (under xesam.org or oscaf.org, I am indifferent where we mount it): Moin wiki SSH shell server Web server with public compiled ontologies (and possibly other stuff) Then there is the mailing list... I really don't care much here. -- Cheers, Mikkel _______________________________________________ Xesam mailing list Xesam@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xesam
