I am really interested in seeing some applications in use from your
customer. can you give me some detail information?
Lotus Zhang
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:07:41 +0100, Richard Ward wrote:
> Good question Paul. Really there is no benefit at all for using xml in
EDI.
> The sad thing is that the real advantage of EDI is often overlooked
because
> of a preoccupation with cutting out the VAN. xml was/is seen as a means
to
> allowing EDI over non-charging networks. Its a bit like walking 10 miles
to
> save 50p on bus fare. It's good for you but is it really worth it?
>
> Where xml is really useful is in e-Marketplaces (portals, vortals,
extranets
> or whatever current buzz word is preferred). Most business visitors to
an
> e-Marketplace will have applications of their own. Using the browser to
> access the e-Marketplace will soon have them saying what they said in the
> late 70's and early 80's after suppliers had provided a nice black
screened,
> green charactered terminal into their ordering system with the promise of
> better responsiveness if they typed in the orders themselves. A few
weeks
> later the instruction would come to take it away and that they were fed
up
> of typing everything twice. Once into the suppliers terminal and once
into
> their own system. "No. We will send you our orders by fax or phone.
You
> type them in!"
>
> Now if the e-Marketplace is served by systems that use xml and xsl the
> visitor can be attracted to the site, start working and when they are
ready
> for integration with their own systems they will have a structure that is
> perfect for the task. They don't need to do the typing twice, they don't
> introduce typographical errors in the process, they get the same
advantages
> they would have had from EDI.
>
> We find that the dynamic information is best served via xml with xsl with
> the more static information via EDI.
>
> By the way all this talking shop stuff about the "Standards" is just a
> repeat of what went on when EDI came on the scene. Just like EDI, some
folk
> just got on with it and started using it. If you want to see some
> applications in use with xml let me know. Our customers have been using
our
> xml offerings for several years in real world business.
>
> Regards
>
> richard
>
> Richard Ward
> Sterling Commerce
> Telephone: +44 (0) 1246 279700
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 28 June 2000 08:54
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Are there really any benefits?.
>
>
>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi all
>
> Again, like a few other recently I'm a new member and this is going to be
my
> first input into the group. I have a question, it's a simple one I
think,
> but
> may ruffle up a few feathers.
>
> I've recently been looking into XML/EDI as part of a work project, and as
> said
> by another member recently there is an awful lot of information out
there,
> it's
> quite difficult to piece it all together. BUT I now have some ideas
about
> what
> XML can do, and where it may be used, BUT and here's my question......
>
> IS THERE REALLY ANY BENEFIT FOR USING XML?
>
> As I understand it, when we receive an XML message we will still have to
run
> it
> through an application (such as Gentran so we can map out into a format
that
> our
> database systems (such as Oracle) can understand.
> Using a Parsa and a DTD (and with all the XML tags in the file) surly
it's
> more
> complicated and increases the size of the message being sent? I don't
see
> what XML in EDI can benefit the company.
>
> IS THERE ANYONE WHO MAY BE ABLE TO PERSUADE ME OTHERWISE?. (your
comments
> will
> be greatly received.)
>
> Cheers
> Paul
>
>
>
>
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