Ginny,
Excellent perspective and comments - and I totally agree with them.We are
already well into an information and service based economy where companies
regular purchase services for those activities they deem better provided by
a third-party service provider rather than by its own internal staff.
Internet VANS and just one example; others that come to mind are third-party
logistics providers, such as FedEx, etc., IT service providers, such as EDS,
IBM, etc. and a whole host of others, even down to some very complex
companies being totally virtual!
I am getting a bit weary of the VAN bashing taking place. VANs did and do
provide a needed service to their targeted market and customers and their
market and customer demands will inexorably force them to provide services
and capabilities needed by these customers or go out of business.
Rachel
|-----Original Message-----
|From: Ginny Crane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 3:11 PM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Cc: richard; XML/edi Group
|Subject: RE: VAN's on the run
|
|
|Folks
|
|Just my two cents worth:
|
|I don't think the VAN scenario will stay around just because
|of fear or
|stubbornness. I think it is because of services and business needs
|and economics. There are many, many companies that just do not
|want to run
|their own shops for lack or resources, lack of dollars and the
|need to focus
|on core competencies. In addition, the VANs are implementing
|EDIINT gateways
|that will allow traditional VAN tps to get to their Internet
|tps and theses
|companies do not want to buy their own EDIINT software and/or
|manage the keys.
|VANs are morphing themselves (albeit slowly) into Value Added
|Internet Service
|Providers where a company can still get the level of service
|and value add
|that they require, but now at varying cost models such as all
|you can eat
|monthly subscription fees, ASP services, web forms etc. Don't
|think just
|because XML and the Internet is here to stay that VANs will go
|away. They
|change as do everything else. XML will easily cross VAN to VAN
|on behalf of
|tps who want to pay for SLAs, customer service, outsourcing,
|mailboxing,
|reports simply because they can not or will not do it
|themselves. Their
|business models just don't support it.
|
|These issues are not technical. They are business and
|economical. Heck,
|remember when timesharing was the rage? Well did those
|timesharing companies
|go out of business when the apps moved inhouse? NO!!! They
|became VANS... Now
|that the Internet is giving us a wealth of new technologies,
|business needs
|and economics will reinvent the VANs to provide Value Added
|Internet services
|both from a transport and a chargable services perspective.
|
|Just my input.
|
|Regards,
|
|Ginny Crane
|AT&T Internet and EDI Business Manager
|
|____________________ Begin Original Message ___________________________
|Date: Sun Jul 23 08:10:46 -0400 2000
|From: internet!datatechis.com!scott (Scott T. Meade)
|Subject: RE: VAN's on the run
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|To: internet!dial.pipex.com!gk92 (richard)
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|I don't think the EDI Van scenario is dead or dieing. There
|will always be
|some companies just out of fear or stubbornness that will
|refuse to let go
|of what has been working for years. Look at the mainframe and
|COBOL. When I
|was in the Air Force in 1985, I was told to stop wasting my
|time learning
|COBOL no one will be using it a year from now. Well here it is 14 years
|later and COBOL is still here. XML is a great technology, but
|people have to
|put it to work.
|
|Smeade
|
|-----Original Message-----
|From: richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 4:35 PM
|To: XML/edi Group
|Subject: VAN's on the run
|
|
|With the XML/Internet messaging lowering the costs of B2B
|whats going to happen to the VAN model of charging for service
|and message space charges ?
|
|In the UK Britsh Telecom a EDI Van has just scrapped its �10 a month
|service charge and replaced it by a �60 month. Is this a message that
|EDI is dead for all other than large established EDI traders.
|
|Is it time to get into XML/Internet messaging now before VAN's go
|dinosaur ?
|
|
|
|
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