As you have mentioned ,Rome is not built in a day.
But today's world is DYNAMICALLY CHANGING with an
alarming rate.
Technology is ever growing and We have to enhance or
Restrcture the standards with the same rate.
I would like to thank him for giving us a JERK.
If we are like this only , We can not build ROME at
all.
With thanks & regards,
Sitaram
Software Engineer,
AXES TECH INDIA LTD.
BANGALORE,
INDIA
--- "Sharma, Nita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi
Steve,
>
> I think instead of laughing at the king, we should
> be stitching clothes for
> him. That is what we at ebXML are working very hard
> at and I think there are
> lot of excellent stuff coming out of it as pointed
> out by few other folks.
> Rome was not built in one day... but we are pushing
> hard to build it. So
> join us and help us build it!
>
> cheers
>
> - Nita
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve L. Bollinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 7:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: The XML/EDI has no Clothes!
>
>
> At 06:26 PM 1/31/2001 -0800, Ken North wrote:
> >Steve,
> >Keep the discussion going.... Don't know if you saw
> this reply in another
> >thread.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Hi Ken! I did see it. It is well written. I think
> ebXML and UDDI are
> good standards and are things that everyone around
> the world will be able
> to use unchanged. i.e. there will not be the
> variance in standards that I
> was talking about. Just like in the X12 world,
> everyone uses the ISA and
> GS enveloping headers exactly the same around the
> world. ebXML likewise
> defines enveloping structures that can be used by
> all around the world
> without change. ebXML and UDDL go further of course
> and I think they will
> be good standards.
>
> All of my comments about variances in established
> standards are directed
> exclusively to the payload. AKA the Business
> Object, Business Document,
> message and in X12 parlance, the "Transaction Set".
> Competition will always
> demand flavors of these established standards. Thus
> the concept of a world
> wide PO is a great idea but is not real world
> practical and won't happen.
>
> The XML/edi concept of XML data and rules combined
> that somehow auto
> convert to the Partners backend without a programmer
> mapping and
> maintaining this, I think is another great idea that
> will never
> happen. Multiple flavors of a PO in XML because
> they each contain their
> own data with rules will self map somehow?
>
> This is the point of expense in X12 that will carry
> over to XML/edi. I
> have yet to see anything that indicates otherwise.
>
>
> At 06:26 PM 1/31/2001 -0800, Ken North wrote:
> >Steve,
> >
> >Keep the discussion going.... Don't know if you saw
> this reply in another
> >thread.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Consider this a reply for both your message and
> Steve Bollinger's.
> >
> >It's premature to judge the effect XML/EDI 'had' on
> eBusiness. That's like
> >suggesting in 1906 (three years after Kitty Hawk)
> that aviation is a flop.
> >
> >Why? The XML spec was released in 1998. There were
> some lessons learned in
> >the 1999 European XML/EDI Pilot Project, but much
> of the activity during
> >2000 has been focused on creating standards for an
> eBusiness
> infrastructure.
> >XML Schema is a few months old. Two major eBusiness
> initiatives (ebXML and
> >UDDI) have drawn participation from key players,
> but they are still
> infants.
> >
> >If you're interested in emerging eBusiness
> technologies, you might want to
> >attend ebXML Day or UDDI Day at XML DevCon 2001 in
> New York City. On April
> >9, ebXML instructors will be rolling out the
> specifications for ebXML
> >Registry/Repository, Message Service, and
> Collaborative (Trading) Partner
> >Agreements.
> >
> >On UDDI Day (April 10), a team of IBM and Microsoft
> instructors will teach
> a
> >UDDI programming workshop (the APIs, the payload,
> how to use the IBM and
> >Microsoft toolkits, and so on).
> >
> >Registration for either event (UDDI Day, ebXML Day)
> is included with the
> >Special Events pass. The Special Events pass is
> free if you pre-register.
> >
> >There are other eBusiness, ebXML, UDDI classes and
> workshop in the main
> >conference program, so you might want to check that
> out before deciding to
> >attend only the free events. We'll have people such
> as Peter Chen teaching
> >conceptual modeling, Jonathan Robie doing a
> tutorial on XML Query, Steve
> >Melton unveiling SQLX, three of the XML/EDI
> founders doing an eBusiness
> >Workshop, and a workshop on business
> transformations with XSLT:
> >http://www.xmldevcon2001.com/NY/html/conference.php
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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