Geoff,

You have touched on a central issue that we've been grappling with
for the past five+ years here on our group, and then into 
the ebXML world too.

Right now there is no clear way in XML for parties to exactly
lay down the business rules for their information exchanges.

This makes it difficult to get alignment around a single 
perscribed set of details.  Unfortunately W3C XSD schema is
promoted as "the answer" here - but as the initiated realize
very quickly when they try this - XSD was never designed to
solve this problem - nor equipped to be used in this role.  All
it does it tell you about the possible XML structure details 
you may use (read = lots of permutations!), and some simple
data typing.

Anyway - help is at hand.  I'm currently chairing the new 
OASIS CAM TC - Content Assembly Mechanism - and we
definately have the focus of solving this and providing
those XML mechanisms.  

More details are available at : 

 http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/cam/

We'll be sending out more details and specifics
over the next couple of weeks, and I'll make sure
those get distro'd to the list as well.

We'll have draft spec's available in January that
people can start working with their own EDI and XML
content exchanges - and creating CAM definitions.

Notice also that we're aiming to make this "business
analyst" friendly XML - not arcane syntax that only
a few specialist programmers can untangle.

Solving the business need here is another of the
pivotal pieces of XML/edi and ebXML.

I'm confident that 2003 is going to see us finally
address this with formal standards based 
approaches.

Thanks, DW.
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>Geoff, 
in my experience, the party that does the mapping usually is the party with
the most bargaining power/ clout. A lot is industry-dependant, e.g. the
Retail sector is characterised by few large retailers and a lot of small
suppliers. Typically, the large retailers can force its suppliers to
perform mappings, and/or to use a web/EDI application to bridge the two
systems.
In my opinion it mostly boils down to a negotiation process between
exchanging parties.

kind regards,
Robin
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-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: maandag 2 december 2002 12:57
To: XMLEDI Group
Subject: Mapping


A question - it is rare to be able to get both partners in an
interchange to use the same schema / standard.  Someone has to map.
What is the view as to who should best do this?  As a general rule I
prefer to take a message in the format of the issuer and map to my
schemas that tie in with my back-end processes.  Similarly I prefer to
send a message in my format and let the recipient map.  Is there a "best
practice" view amongst the group?

Geoff Carter
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