On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Lukas Molzberger wrote:

>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:34:11 +0200
>From: Lukas Molzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: Is the XFree development stuck in a dead end?
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>On Monday 15 July 2002 01:39, Nick Name wrote:
>> > 1. XFree is far too slow.
>>
>> I don't know what your terms of comparison are, but for example "return
>> to castle wolfenstein" on same hardware runs really faster than on
>> windows, with maximum settings. Dunno if this means anything.
>
>Sorry, I should've written clearer what I mean. Only the 2d performance of 
>XFree is slow. For example XVideo Opengl are indeed very nice. I don't use 
>WinXP for other reasons, but just compare it with XFree. I think the feeling 
>is just so much better. I mean thats not a special XFree problem. I've worked 
>on IRIX machines for a long time and there you have the same problem. I mean 
>I know that it's not all XFrees fault. The Toolkits also play an important 
>role.

You're claiming it isn't XFree86's fault now, whereas your last 
email was suggesting someone should set out to reimplement 
XFree86 because it was slow.  Why reimplement a GUI if it isn't 
slow.  Guessing at the problem, and shooting in the dark doesn't 
solve the problem.  Use profiling software such as oprofile to 
find what is slow, and either fix it, or provide your profiling 
results to the community so other potential developers can work 
on improving the situation.  The more we work together to find 
the problems of the _existing_ system we have, and fix them, the 
betteer the system will be.  Dividing ourselves and randomly 
reimplimenting things from scratch only slows development down 
even further.


>> > 2. What is presented on the screen should always be consistent (i.e.
>> > no flickering).
>>
>> It is already?
>No, just move one Window over another or do an opaque window resize and you'll 
>see artefacts all over the place. 

Works fine for me.  Most likely your video driver is buggy, or 
acceleration is disabled.  The solution to that, is to debug it, 
and fix it, or report the bug, and hopefully someone else with 
the hardware and specs can debug and fix it.


>> > (3. It should be possible to configure XFree over a dialog that is
>> > intergrated in Gnome and Kde.)
>
>I would like to apologize in case I didn't find the right words. I just think 
>there is a problem with XFree and don't see it going away anytime soon.

Sure, there are problems with XFree86, just like any software.  
Those problems will get solved as more people who care enough 
about them being solved join in the effort at solving them.




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