On 6/27/06, Jani Monoses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi As seen on the artwork list there are two persons nominated to lead the Ubuntu and Kubuntu artwork teams for edgy. I suppose we also should have someone overlooking Xubuntu artwork and have the last say on it. I propose Jozsef Mak if he is interested, as most of the current artwork (which is very liked by the people I have talked to) is his work. thoughts? Jani -- xubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
Hi Jani, I can help. In terms of look, here is a few things come to mind right away, we need focusing on during the edgy development phase. 1) Usplash 2) Login screen 3) Login splash 4) Wallpapers 5) Icons 6) gtk theme But before going into details let me bring up the issue, I started a few weeks ago on this list about xubuntu future look and feel. As indicated then xubuntu needs a unique identity rather than to develop as an ubuntu lookalike. Some on this mailing list suggested that xubuntu should resemble to ubuntu. Since a while ago a similar debate took place on the art-list, I saved some of the pertinent opinions of Mr Shoutleworth regarding the matter and pasted them here so that others can also read his stand on the issue. Here they are; "We have an official "policy of independence" between the flavours of Ubuntu. They are basically required to collaborate on bits that overlap, like kernel, but can be totally independent w.r.t. things like art and style. My only requirement of consistency is that they ALL be *consistently*: * world class (looking DAMN good) * distinctive (if you see a screenshot you should KNOW it's Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Ubuntu) Please turn this into an FAQ so that we don't have the same debate time and time again! Cheers, Mark Gnome and KDE are not just different colours. They have different philosophies. One of the key ingredients of our success in this project has been that we respected the difference rather than trying to shoehorn their vision into a combined platform. Red Hat and SUSE have done the shoehorning, we have quite deliberately allowed the Gnome and KDE communities to express their differences. If you want to be involved in the art in this project, then you really need to grasp how important that distinction is. While a "consistent user interface" is a beautiful idea, it should not come at the price of the feeling that KDE and Gnome have that Ubuntu / Kubuntu are the best places for THEM to express their ideas. THEY write the software, we just package it. This is absolutely essential for everyone to understand. Now, don't get me wrong. We want the different desktop environments to learn from one another. We learned a bunch of stuff during Breezy with Ubuntu, and as a result we tuned the Kubuntu desktop in Dapper. But we did not try to make them look the same. Just like we have not tried to make either of them look like Windows (one common request) or like the Mac (another common request). I think that Ubuntu and Kubuntu need unique, distinctive, world class, consistent icon sets and interface themes. And I'm investing my own time in helping make that happen." Mark I think this settles the issue. Now, let's start building a good looking xubuntu that resembles only to itself. The list. 1) Usplash. With all probability, we have to stick with an artwork with 16 colors with all the limitations of the format. At least, this is what emerged from the art discussions. But someone is working on a template that would allow using other than black for the background. As soon as I learn something definite I indicate. 2) Login screen I already have some ideas. I post it as soon as ready. 3) Login splash Suggestion! do away with the mouse animation. Xubuntu boots up so fast it needs no splash. In fact, without that it boots up faster. Try this, disable the animation and count the seconds from the login screen boot up till the desktop comes up; without the animation the time interval is shorter. The other thing is that the animation is a bit childish. 4)Wallpapers I have some ideas. As soon as, I finish up something upload it for evaluation. 5) Icons I think the Tango icons are good; they are the most complete among all the available sets. But the blue icon tones doesn't go with the blue background, it blends too much into it; because of this, I suggest using the aluminum tango instead. They somehow look more elegant too. There is another minor thing regarding tango; Mr Shoutleworth doesn't like it. The other day, he was talking rather disparagingly about the set invoking a protest from the tango artists. But this shouldn't concern us, i guess. I've also learned that there is new gnome icon set in the making. We can evaluate them when they are out to see they might be used instead of tango. But this is still some time off. 6) gtk theme I think we need a better gtk theme as well because the current beige just doesn't go with our color scheme. In the dapper phase, I already created some with different colors and I keep working on it. Other opportunity would be, picking something from the xfce look page. That is it for now. If you have other suggestions please indicate so that we can discuss it. And give some feedback. Thanks, J. Mak -- http://jozmak.googlepages.com/ -- xubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
