The aftermarket route is certainly the route I've taken, for the reasons Pjotr described, and I would indeed prefer the LTS-only-release cycle.
Seems Pjotr read my mind just now. :-) Xeep going strong. ;-) thanks for all the work. W Op 8 aug. 2016 15:12 schreef "PK" <[email protected]>: > In my experience, marketing-wise, Xubuntu is an excellent *aftermarket* > product. > > People first start out with the Ubuntu or Linux Mint they've heard about, > find out that performance on older hardware is a bit disappointing, and > start looking for lightweight replacements. Then they find Xubuntu: > lightweight, yet slick and user-friendly enough to be a complete > alternative. > > Make no mistakes: the aftermarket is a very big market! Xubuntu is already > a big player there, and likely to remain so. The various Ubuntu fora are > full of testimonials of people who are happy with Xubuntu, or who advise > others to start using Xubuntu on some older machine. > > I have one suggestion to make: the perceived quality of the "brand" > Xubuntu can perhaps be improved when the only codebase is Ubuntu LTS and > its point releases. So no more short-lived intermediate releases. > Comparable with the release policy that Linux Mint has adopted in 2014. > > Keep up the good work! I's being appreciated by more people than you might > realize. :-) > > Regards, Pjotr. > > 2016-08-08 12:44 GMT+02:00 Pasi Lallinaho <[email protected]>: > >> Hello Michael, >> >> I'm not sure how this relates to what the Xubuntu team is planning to do. >> >> This is mostly for the reason that Xubuntu is a completely >> community-driven project and no money is put into the marketing. For this >> reason, the marketing tends to be more on the passive than active side. >> This means that we do not really do the kind of outreach you are describing. >> >> On the subject of converting, I don't think anybody in the team is >> working on Xubuntu because they feel the need to convert everybody into >> Linux. At least my personal main motive isn't to try to convert people to >> Xubuntu, but to make Xubuntu better for myself and thus for the others as >> well. >> >> That said (but while we have absolutely no statistics on the subject, >> specifically as we don't do active marketing), I know that a lot of people >> have converted from other (non-Linux) operating systems to Xubuntu. >> >> Finally, the proposal I made was simply to gather testimonials and thanks >> that come to us naturally, not actively going looking for it either. >> >> Rather than being negative and sceptic about the power of marketing, I'd >> like us to celebrate what we love about Xubuntu. We can't ever please >> everybody, so it is better stick to what we think is the right way to go >> and people will follow. >> >> Cheers, >> Pasi >> >> >> On 2016-08-08 12:53, michael meelis wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> For what is worth, that is what I have been going (as a lead) for 5 >> years full time with http://www.freshbook.nl/faq/ >> (check with google translate Dutch-English (or your language)) >> (Note: Site design is now also 5 years old. Also click through to >> youtube for timestamps). >> >> I can tell you the whole case from: >> * First Windows user found the UI too ugly, so we make Xubuntu look >> really cool >> * Than we had to make videos to show how cool it is (seeing is >> believing). >> * Than we made a teaching video of 3 hours (production took one whole >> year). Youtube kept on flagging it with violation on public domain >> stuff. Even with videos that where uploaded much later. That **we** >> were as violation their content that they had ripped from us!!! (GO >> FIGURE) >> * Than we had 10 (+1) professional cartoons made to point out Windows >> Annoyances. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zAQwetfXvw or >> The +1 video is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NShpY_oSs4 >> * Than we had to make a cool website because ppl believe more what they >> **read** than what they see with their **own** eyes. Weird but true. >> * Than we organised events all over the country (NL) where ppl could try >> it out on their own computer. Help them upgrade and transition. >> * Than we took each weekend a stand at a different summer fair. To show >> it to ppl that where not looking for it. >> * Than we recruited supporters to go out an do it. >> >> In the whole process we spent a **lot** of money on 3rd parties, salaries, >> PR, advertisement, flyers, marketing, etc, etc. >> >> Summer of 5 years work: we converted no one!!! Let that sink in!! >> Near no one! Only ppl who where already convinced we have helped with >> the transition. The conversion rate of near 0% is is statistically >> significant. We have have written it of as some sort of Mind Control to >> keep ppl in the dominant systems. To check this theory we retested it >> with Andriod users with slow smartphones. Same results. >> >> So do what you have to do but expect nothing. >> >> >> Hope this feedback helps, >> Michael >> >> >> -- >> Pasi Lallinaho (knome) › http://open.knome.fi/ >> Leader of Shimmer Project › http://shimmerproject.org/ >> Xubuntu Website Lead › http://xubuntu.org/ >> >> >> -- >> xubuntu-devel mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel >> >> > > -- > xubuntu-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel > >
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