Hi Pasi,

I apologize for the rather pessimistic tone of my original post. Despite all my evangelization efforts over the years, no person I know has "stuck with it" and become an avid Linux user. You are right. Sow the seeds of Linux widely. Who knows where it will bloom?

Good luck with the campaign, Jordan

On 08/06/2016 04:37 AM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
If you look at it from the other side of the coin, why create something that you don't want to spread to as many people as possible?

Cheers,
Pasi

On 2016-08-06 03:13, JMZ wrote:

Pardon my confusion, but why market something that's not for sale?

I've been using desktop Linux for quite some time, and I would never, ever return to Windows for personal use (I fix MS machines frequently though). I love the amazing flexibility of bash, and the open platform for xfce among other environments.

Desktop Linux has a low single digit adoption rate because the vast majority of critical system functions can't be performed from within the gui. If someone is unwilling to use bash or another shell, he or she will probably get frustrated and go to Windows or OSX. The cli is holding Linux back from wider adoption, but there's no way around learning and using commands.

Jordan

On 08/05/2016 08:04 AM, Sean Davis wrote:

This sounds like a good idea to me. If there's any way we can simplify the process (copy and paste template, online submission form, etc) I feel like that would improve the quality and quantity of submissions.


On Mon, Aug 1, 2016, 5:24 PM Pasi Lallinaho <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hello team,

    especially during the #LoveXubuntu campaign we've got quite a
    bunch of
    "thanks" from our users. These include stories about how Xubuntu has
    made the users' computing experience better, good arguments for why
    Xubuntu is the best OS for them (and potentially others) etc.

    Currently, we are officially only gathering submissions for the
    #LoveXubuntu contest, but some of these mails has left me
    thinking we
    could gather some of these "testimonials" for potential marketing
    purposes in the future. Use cases that I can imagine from the
    top of my
    head include the Xubuntu flyer, our website and more.

    My proposal (in a very early idea stage) is that in addition to
    specific
    contest and campaigns, we could use the Xubuntu-contacts mailing
    list
    for gathering these "testimonials" and thanks. This would need
    some kind
    of organization:

    1) Create a page that describes what we are looking, with
    instructions
    (see further points)

    2) Require the submissions to have a certain tag at the
    beginning of the
    subject
    This helps us when we seek for any content in the mailing list
    archive.

    3) Require the submitter to agree that we can use their content
    however
    we want (either by licensing, or a generic permission)
    We likely need the users to send this approval with their
    submission on
    the mailing list. To do this, we can instruct them to specify which
    license they want to use, or use any kind of general permission
    text. At
    this point, I would say we shouldn't approve content which
    license or
    terms isn't specified (clearly enough) on the mail.

    What do you think?


    At the same time, I want to remind that anybody in the team who
    wishes
    to read the mailing list archive can simply ask to get
    subscribed. The
    list has been very light in traffic so far, so no extra hands are
    required for moderation at this point.

    Cheers,
    Pasi

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