On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Gerald Bauer wrote: >> >> It's not by-invitation-only. Anyone can join. Many dozens of people >> already have. You just have to subscribe to a mailing list. > > Ian allow me to quote from your very own website: > >| **Membership is by invitation only** ...
The group of people who have the final say (and who pay for the site) is by invitaton only, sure. But anyone can contribute. Your "spin", as you put it, made it sound like some closed group who would make things up in private, whereas in fact it is open to anyone. >> It's not a W3C alternative. > > Well, spin it as you like. The WHAT WG is a W3C alternative. It's not > endorsed by the W3C. It's not using the W3C process and so on. "alternative" means the choices are mutually exclusive. The goal of WHATWG is specifically to prepare something for submission to a standards group. Therefore by definition it isn't an "alternative". This isn't a matter of spin, it's a matter of correct use of terminology. But then we all know you have trouble with correct use of terminology! > Also as you note you keep your option open for future standardisation at > W3C or IETF or ECMA or wherever you feel like you get the best > reception. Note that the W3C have a policy whereby their members are not allowed to state that they wish to submit their work to the W3C. So even if we only planned to do that, we couldn't say so, and would have to either be vague, or claim to be leaving our options open. > Why not help out with the affiliation of the founding members: > > * Brendan Eich - Mozilla Foundation > * David Baron - ?? > * HÃkon Wium Lie - Opera > * Ian Hickson - Opera > * Johnny Stenback - ?? David and Johnny are both Mozilla Foundation employees. >> Microsoft is not excluded, they are as welcome as anyone else. Indeed >> at the recent workshop on Web Applications, Microsoft were one of the >> few groups that indicated interest in the work. > > Yeah, for sure. Isn't the point of the whole exercise to move the web > forward even though Microsoft has frozen Internet Explorer and boycotts > W3C standards such as XHTML, SVG, XForms and so on. Again, spin it as > you like. I really am not sure what there is to "spin" here. I'm just trying to keep your facts straight and accurate, since you have such a great difficulty doing so yourself. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: GNOME Foundation Hackers Unite! GUADEC: The world's #1 Open Source Desktop Event. GNOME Users and Developers European Conference, 28-30th June in Norway http://2004/guadec.org _______________________________________________ xul-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xul-talk
