Alright Mark, now we're getting somewhere.  

These "attacks" as you are calling them is actually a booter.  Someone
has your name in their booter, to boot you whenever they are online or
whenver you come online.  They do not need to be on your friends list
to do this, only to have your name. What this does is log in as few as
1 and as many as 1,000 yahoo IDs, known as bots.  Each of these bots
send you a request for either file transfers, pm's (pm bomb),
Imviornment request, conference request, cam request, etc.  This
totally cloggs up your port and no traffic gets thru and boom you are
disconnected from messenger.  This is ONLY an attack on messenger, NOT
on your computer.  However your as your internet connection is swamped
with information, your anti-virus software is in fact affected, but
not because of someone getting into your computer, it's because it is
detecting a port overload from the boot.  

Is a way to protect yourself?? Of course there is.  Can you tell me if
you have a program such as Ytunnel???  Can you let me know when you
are online and I can go thru the settings to get you set up so that it
will be very difficult to boot you.

The only way a trojan will be put on your computer, is if YOU put it
there.  For example if you accept a file from someone you ASSUME is
your friend, it could have a trojan in it and that person may not
really be your friend, but someone who has taken your friends name and
is sending out malacious files. 

Another way by downloading files and information online. 

My suggestion is to get and run the following software. 

Adaware
Spy bot search and destroy
AVG Anti Virus - 
http://free.grisoft.com/softw/70free/setup/avg70free_300a456.exe
house calls - online virus checker

Run all these programs - if you are worried about trojans...

But what you are talking about is definately a messenger boot.

Let me know.


--- In [email protected], "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> WEll, I have these attacks while my yahoo messenger isw up and 
> running, even under different User ID's then this one. It comes thru 
> messenger in the form of message boxes, conference request, etc.  I 
> even get them as offline messages when I'm not signed on. I don't 
> know if it is a denial of service attack too or some other form of 
> an attack, what I do know is I can get 3-7 messages per second 
> andthat tro date no pretection has stopped it from happening, 
> including the best, Zone Alarm-IMSecure or the new Zone Alarm Suite 
> which includes it in it. I don't do the yahoo chatroom thing at all 
> or he isn't on my yahoo friends list either. or at least noty that 
> I'm aware of.....could be under a "false flag" ID, pretending to be 
> someone else, not sure, that would explain his getting in whilst I 
> have my preferences set to exclude those not on my list?!
>   I get the attacks while I'm just doing my e-mails or othewr stuff 
> and have my messenger up and running, waiting for friends to come 
> online and say hi, also if attacked I understand it is possible to 
> enter someone's computer as if it were entered thru a trojan horse 
> or other cracking/hacking device.......
>  As always I am thankful for feedback and whatever insights you can 
> share with me as I'm not alone in this wave of wrath.
> 
>    ,Mark
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Netti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > I know we're going to get this down sooner or later Mark. hehehe
> > 
> > You're saying that your in yahoo messenger, and he is on your 
> friends
> > list?  Or in a chat room with you?  And what do you mean bullying 
> you?
> >  How so?
> > 
> > And let me tell you a few things about chat, thru messenger, thru
> > groups, and hacking. 
> > 
> > First, the only way for ANYONE to get to your nortons antivirus is 
> to
> > physically be in your computer, which only TRUE hackers can do.  
> The
> > reason is that they have to get thru your Internet Service Provider
> > BEFORE they can get thru you.  And ANY ISP is going to have 
> systems in
> > place to prevent ANYONE from getting in.  So whatever happened to 
> your
> > nortons was unrelated to this guy booting you, or whatever.  
> Believe
> > me hackers are NOT waisting their time on Yahoo. 
> > 
> > Secondly, How is this person attacking thru messenger?  Can you 
> give
> > me an example?  And tell me wher eyou are?  If you have messenger
> > opened and are sitting on desktop talking, or if you are on the 
> Yahoo
> > front page, and entering GROUPS, or if you are in a Chat room???
> > 
> > Thanks 
> > 
> > Netti, 
> > 
> > P.S. I'm trying to help you Mark, but I need more info.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Netti,
> > > 
> > > Well, let's aee....The problem is that the attacks aren't in 
> Group
> > > Chat, but in: YAHOO MESSENGER, he attacks THRU MESSENGER, I don't
> > > have chat sessions at all. What he is doing is, trying to BULLY 
> us
> > > thru messenger to get his way in Yahoo Groups. I hope that helps
> > > clarify the issue, which I feel is "on topic" for the mission
> > > statement of this Group.
> > > By the way, the attack resulted in whipping out Norton, etc., as
> > > soon as I received this attack, and after rebooting it was not in
> > > doubt that it occurred as a result of that attack.
> > > Yes, until there is a more addressable form of membership such as
> > > that used by AOL(666), there will not be a way to truly 86 these
> > > bastards......
> > > 
> > > QUESTION: How do I pursue the most effective request and/or force
> > > Yahoo to address this issue, which is as bad a case documented as
> > > any harassment they have ever had? Face to face, sit-down 
> meeting?
> > > We are willing to travel to San Jose H.Q. so as to resolve 
> this!!!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Take Care, Mark
> > > So, with that in mind, is there anyone here who might be able to
> > > suggest a tactic either with OR without the help of Yahoo???





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