No problem Mark, We'll set you up, no problem.  Just send an email and
we'll set up a time to meet online, and I'll go thru all the security
features.  

Netti

--- In [email protected], "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> THX Nettie,
> 
>     You defined what even two radio Tech-Talk Show hosts couldn't 
> figure out for me and the other targets as well. I did try to 
> download and install 'Ytunnel' once before from Cnet/Download.com, 
> but didn't have any luck making it work. I am very interested in 
> your help whenever you can find the time to help me with it. I will 
> e-mail you directly presently regarding how this can be arranged.
>  I have used: AVG, SPYBOT-Search+Destroy 1.3, Adaware SE, 
> Trendmicro's PCillion/online website scan/browser button.
>  I have used 'Zone Alarm-Security Suite' which now has it's one time 
> seperate product instant message firewall = 'IMSecure' included. It 
> doesn't play well with other virus-checker and firewalls, now that 
> it is inclusive of all those features......I really liked it in 
> times past, but it seems too restrictive! 
>  My main grief has been w/ yahoo messenger, if needed, I might have 
> to employ the same medicine that this moron dishes out to us, even 
> if I must get help from those guys over at: '2600'....the 
> Crackers/Hackers..........."what's good for the goose, is good for 
> the gander!".    ,Mark
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Netti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Alright Mark, now we're getting somewhere.  
> > 
> > These "attacks" as you are calling them is actually a booter.  
> Someone
> > has your name in their booter, to boot you whenever they are 
> online or
> > whenver you come online.  They do not need to be on your friends 
> list
> > to do this, only to have your name. What this does is log in as 
> few as
> > 1 and as many as 1,000 yahoo IDs, known as bots.  Each of these 
> bots
> > send you a request for either file transfers, pm's (pm bomb),
> > Imviornment request, conference request, cam request, etc.  This
> > totally cloggs up your port and no traffic gets thru and boom you 
> are
> > disconnected from messenger.  This is ONLY an attack on messenger, 
> NOT
> > on your computer.  However your as your internet connection is 
> swamped
> > with information, your anti-virus software is in fact affected, but
> > not because of someone getting into your computer, it's because it 
> is
> > detecting a port overload from the boot.  
> > 
> > Is a way to protect yourself?? Of course there is.  Can you tell 
> me if
> > you have a program such as Ytunnel???  Can you let me know when you
> > are online and I can go thru the settings to get you set up so 
> that it
> > will be very difficult to boot you.
> > 
> > The only way a trojan will be put on your computer, is if YOU put 
> it
> > there.  For example if you accept a file from someone you ASSUME is
> > your friend, it could have a trojan in it and that person may not
> > really be your friend, but someone who has taken your friends name 
> and
> > is sending out malacious files. 
> > 
> > Another way by downloading files and information online. 
> > 
> > My suggestion is to get and run the following software. 
> > 
> > Adaware
> > Spy bot search and destroy
> > AVG Anti Virus - 
> > http://free.grisoft.com/softw/70free/setup/avg70free_300a456.exe
> > house calls - online virus checker
> > 
> > Run all these programs - if you are worried about trojans...
> > 
> > But what you are talking about is definately a messenger boot.
> > 
> > Let me know.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > WEll, I have these attacks while my yahoo messenger isw up and 
> > > running, even under different User ID's then this one. It comes 
> thru 
> > > messenger in the form of message boxes, conference request, 
> etc.  I 
> > > even get them as offline messages when I'm not signed on. I 
> don't 
> > > know if it is a denial of service attack too or some other form 
> of 
> > > an attack, what I do know is I can get 3-7 messages per second 
> > > andthat tro date no pretection has stopped it from happening, 
> > > including the best, Zone Alarm-IMSecure or the new Zone Alarm 
> Suite 
> > > which includes it in it. I don't do the yahoo chatroom thing at 
> all 
> > > or he isn't on my yahoo friends list either. or at least noty 
> that 
> > > I'm aware of.....could be under a "false flag" ID, pretending to 
> be 
> > > someone else, not sure, that would explain his getting in whilst 
> I 
> > > have my preferences set to exclude those not on my list?!
> > >   I get the attacks while I'm just doing my e-mails or othewr 
> stuff 
> > > and have my messenger up and running, waiting for friends to 
> come 
> > > online and say hi, also if attacked I understand it is possible 
> to 
> > > enter someone's computer as if it were entered thru a trojan 
> horse 
> > > or other cracking/hacking device.......
> > >  As always I am thankful for feedback and whatever insights you 
> can 
> > > share with me as I'm not alone in this wave of wrath.
> > > 
> > >    ,Mark
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Netti" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I know we're going to get this down sooner or later Mark. 
> hehehe
> > > > 
> > > > You're saying that your in yahoo messenger, and he is on your 
> > > friends
> > > > list?  Or in a chat room with you?  And what do you mean 
> bullying 
> > > you?
> > > >  How so?
> > > > 
> > > > And let me tell you a few things about chat, thru messenger, 
> thru
> > > > groups, and hacking. 
> > > > 
> > > > First, the only way for ANYONE to get to your nortons 
> antivirus is 
> > > to
> > > > physically be in your computer, which only TRUE hackers can 
> do.  
> > > The
> > > > reason is that they have to get thru your Internet Service 
> Provider
> > > > BEFORE they can get thru you.  And ANY ISP is going to have 
> > > systems in
> > > > place to prevent ANYONE from getting in.  So whatever happened 
> to 
> > > your
> > > > nortons was unrelated to this guy booting you, or whatever.  
> > > Believe
> > > > me hackers are NOT waisting their time on Yahoo. 
> > > > 
> > > > Secondly, How is this person attacking thru messenger?  Can 
> you 
> > > give
> > > > me an example?  And tell me wher eyou are?  If you have 
> messenger
> > > > opened and are sitting on desktop talking, or if you are on 
> the 
> > > Yahoo
> > > > front page, and entering GROUPS, or if you are in a Chat 
> room???
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks 
> > > > 
> > > > Netti, 
> > > > 
> > > > P.S. I'm trying to help you Mark, but I need more info.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi Netti,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, let's aee....The problem is that the attacks aren't in 
> > > Group
> > > > > Chat, but in: YAHOO MESSENGER, he attacks THRU MESSENGER, I 
> don't
> > > > > have chat sessions at all. What he is doing is, trying to 
> BULLY 
> > > us
> > > > > thru messenger to get his way in Yahoo Groups. I hope that 
> helps
> > > > > clarify the issue, which I feel is "on topic" for the mission
> > > > > statement of this Group.
> > > > > By the way, the attack resulted in whipping out Norton, 
> etc., as
> > > > > soon as I received this attack, and after rebooting it was 
> not in
> > > > > doubt that it occurred as a result of that attack.
> > > > > Yes, until there is a more addressable form of membership 
> such as
> > > > > that used by AOL(666), there will not be a way to truly 86 
> these
> > > > > bastards......
> > > > > 
> > > > > QUESTION: How do I pursue the most effective request and/or 
> force
> > > > > Yahoo to address this issue, which is as bad a case 
> documented as
> > > > > any harassment they have ever had? Face to face, sit-down 
> > > meeting?
> > > > > We are willing to travel to San Jose H.Q. so as to resolve 
> > > this!!!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Take Care, Mark
> > > > > So, with that in mind, is there anyone here who might be 
> able to
> > > > > suggest a tactic either with OR without the help of Yahoo???





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