Is it sufficiently important to add the note that I should ask the RFC
Editor to pull it back, so I can add the note and re-verify?

Barry

On Friday, May 23, 2014, Randall Gellens <[email protected]> wrote:

> I completely agree with John.  A note on the errata is fine (since it has
> already been marked as verified).
>
> At 2:28 PM -0400 5/23/14, John C Klensin wrote:
>
>   Unless I'm wrong about how motivated any of us are to do a 6409
>>  update to fix this, can we just note (as a comment on the
>>  erratum since it has gotten this far) that there is an issue
>>  with the text (as noted) and that it needs to be examined
>>  carefully in any rewrite.  I agree with Randy's comments about
>>  clarity, but doubt that is worth spending a lot more time on now
>>  unless something thinks the issue is really important enough to
>>  justify a revision.
>>
>>     john
>>
>>
>>  --On Friday, 23 May, 2014 08:07 -0700 Randall Gellens
>>  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>   I think the wording is unclear and should be improved.  See
>>>  in-line:
>>>
>>>  At 3:59 AM -0700 5/22/14, RFC Errata System wrote:
>>>
>>>    The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6409,
>>>>   "Message Submission for Mail".
>>>>
>>>>   --------------------------------------
>>>>   You may review the report below and at:
>>>>   http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6409&eid=3995
>>>>
>>>>   --------------------------------------
>>>>   Type: Technical
>>>>   Reported by: Tony Finch <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>   Section: 8.7
>>>>
>>>>   Original Text
>>>>   -------------
>>>>      NOTE: SMTP [SMTP-MTA] prohibits the use of domain name
>>>>      aliases in addresses and the session-opening
>>>>      announcement.  As with other SMTP requirements, RFC 5321
>>>>      effectively prohibits an MSA from forwarding such
>>>>      messages into the public Internet.  Nonetheless,
>>>>      unconditionally resolving aliases could be harmful.  For
>>>>      example, if www.example.net and ftp.example.net are both
>>>>      aliases for mail.example.net, rewriting them could lose
>>>>      useful information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Corrected Text
>>>>   --------------
>>>>      NOTE: RFC 821 and RFC 1123 prohibited the use of domain
>>>>      name aliases in addresses and the session-opening
>>>>      announcement.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       Because of this it is still common for MTAs to
>>>>      canonicalize domains in email addresses.
>>>>
>>>
>>>  Because of what?  The prohibition on CNAMEs?
>>>
>>>  "it is still common for MTAs to" should be worded as "some
>>>  MTAs" to be more factual (otherwise it raises questions of how
>>>  common).
>>>
>>>     However this requirement was dropped
>>>>
>>>
>>>  What requirement was dropped?  The wording should be clear.
>>>
>>>       during the development of RFC 2821.  The current rules
>>>>      about domain name aliases are set out in RFC 5321 section
>>>>      2.3.5.
>>>>
>>>>   Notes
>>>>   -----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Instructions:
>>>>   -------------
>>>>   This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary,
>>>>   please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be
>>>>   verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the
>>>>   verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and
>>>>   edit the report, if necessary.
>>>>
>>>>   --------------------------------------
>>>>   RFC6409 (draft-ietf-yam-rfc4409bis-03)
>>>>   --------------------------------------
>>>>   Title               : Message Submission for Mail
>>>>   Publication Date    : November 2011
>>>>   Author(s)           : R. Gellens, J. Klensin
>>>>   Category            : INTERNET STANDARD
>>>>   Source              : Yet Another Mail
>>>>   Area                : Applications
>>>>   Stream              : IETF
>>>>   Verifying Party     : IESG
>>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Randall Gellens
> Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
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>
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