# [email protected] / 2013-08-16 11:44:39 +0200:
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:22:21 +0200
> Roman Neuhauser <[email protected]> wrote:
> > # [email protected] / 2013-08-14 10:06:54 +0200:
> > > >   The question is if we could do more and also use integration
> > > > testing [3] in the future. Like the installer could setup
> > > > partitioning and then check bootloader and software proposal.
> > > > That would probably need some UI support, but in some cases it
> > > > could be nice.
> > > 
> > > not sure about this
> > 
> > if it can drive code, it can drive code.  integration tests are not
> > that different from unit tests.  or am i missing something?
> 
> There is one big difference. Good unit test have minimum of mocking.
> But integration test for yast means increadible bunch of mocking as you
> usually don't want to break testing machine.

I'd say both contexts require this capability, period.  See eg.
yast-installation/src/modules/SystemFilesCopy.rb.  OTOH...

> For me integration testing is better in simulated environment and I
> think it is better to use completelly different tool like openqa or
> cucumber in virtualized
> environment.

... yeah, this is a different kind and scale of "mocking".

> Actually for me it is almost must have ability to run one test or at
> least one test file as usually testing take some time and when I
> detecting problem I want isolated run of test. But almost all
> frameworks support it, but sometimes it needs small help.

Agreed, the ability to choose a subset of tests to run on the command
line is important.

-- 
roman
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