----- Original Message ----- Subject:RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Malema @it again Date:Fri, 10 Oct 2008 6:10:20 From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:Thembinkosi Zulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Receive greetings Ive listened with dismay to the latest statement by our ANCYL Pres, Maleme threw punches at Cde Zola Skweyiya claiming that had bhuti Zola, had something to say to him regarding his ill treatment towards Mbeki he expected him to follow the internal proceduress. Which he claims could have had prolific outcomes, instead of him raving about Malema`z bad unruly behaviour in the media therefore making the issue for public consumption. And he even went to an extent of saying on the last NEC meeting Bhut Zola was seated behind him and he didnt raise any of the concerns he may had against Him (Julius). Im flabbergasted by the advice he had shared to Bhuti Zola, because the advice is also contrary to the manner in which he carried himself regarding the Ex Head of State. Had he had exercised the avenue himself (Malema) that he offered as advice to Cde Skweyiya he wuldnt have ended up in this predicament between them . Malema, Mbeki and Skweyiya are all members of our beloved ANC and therfore, why would Malema want to be engaged in a different manner by Skweyiya, in a manner that is isolated from the public domain. Is he afraid that this will result in his image being tarnished? its just a question. what makes me laugh is the fact that he got served the same media platter he has been serving Mbeki all this time and now akumnandanga xa zibuyiswa izitya. KwaXhosa kuthiwa Yenza lento ungafuna yenziwe nakuwe. Word of advise he should AT TIMES refrain from the Snake approach of forever honouring everything said abt him in media and otherwise, its therefore advisable that at times take the Ostrich approach and bury his head in the sand and pretend as if he didnt hear a thing. I stand to be corrected REGARDS Thembinkosi Zulu wrote: > Cdes > > I think it is important that one clarifies the assertions made by cde > Kombisa.For starters, there is no legitimacy at all to what Lekota is doing.I > cannot even call him a comrade as of today because of the confusion and > anarchy that he wants create in the ANC.There can never be legitimacy to > actions by an individual of elevating himself to a pedestal higher than that > of the ANC.Lekota has brought the organization (the ANC) and the alliance > into disrepute and he must explain himself to the Disciplinary Committee of > the ANC and to the alliance as a whole.There is no legitimacy to actions by > Lekota of parading himself to the media and to the nation as the alternative > to the ANC.Lekota is what he is today because of the ANC, the very ANC that > he today wants to contest and defeat in the upcoming 2009 general > elections. > > Secondly,loyal and disciplined members of the ANC would never go to the > media and lambast the ANC and its leadership in the manner that Lekota has > done.It is ill discipline of the worst form what Lekota did and we must not > begin to condone this unacceptable behavior.Lekota has never accepted the > leadership of the ANC as elected by the highest decision making body of the > ANC at the Polokwane Conference.Lekota has continued to treat the ANC NEC > and particulary the President of the ANC with contempt. When we as > comrades begin to condone his actions, we actually saying that every > disgruntled ANC member reserves the right to call a media briefing and cast > aspersions to and humiliate the ANC and its leadership.That cannot be allowed > for the ANC's sake. > Thirdly, genuine concernes by genuine members of the ANC are made through > structures of the ANC. Genuine members of the ANC understand what do we mean > by organizational discipline and democratic centralism. Lekota has > disregarded and defied these principles.He does not respect the decisions > taken by the NEC of the ANC.What is left for Lekota is to do the honorable > thing and leave the ANC in peace.Our leaders are not fools. It cannot be true > that 86 thinking people, deliberating correctly so about an issue for more > than 12 hours can be labeled as irrational and deviating from the Freedom > Charter by removing an individual in the Presidency of the Republic.Lekota is > a fool,he is not bigger than the ANC, HE MUST LEAVE THE ANC AND HE MUST LEAVE > NOW.His conduct is unbefitting for him to be called a member of the ANC. > > Fothly,There are elections next year,this is not the time for us to massage > peoples egos.We need not to lose focus and be preoccupied by the likes of > Lekota and Mluleki George.The ANC as government, with the alliance have the > responsibility to respond the needs of the masses of our people with regard > to poverty,education ,health,housing etc.The advancement of the National > Democratic Revolution cannot and will not be side tracked by Lekota. > > Finally the best decision to be taken by the ANC with regard to Lakota and > George is for them to be expelled.No one can say'' we are handing divorce > papers to the ANC'' and still remain a member of the ANC.It cannot be > correct. > > VIVA ANC! VIVA SACP! VIVA COSATU VIVA ANCYL! VIVA YCL! VIVA SASCO! >>> > "Kombisa Sidloyi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/9/2008 6:51 PM >>> Lets first assess > the legitimacy of what comrade Terror said then begin to draw conclusions. > Further more, as much as we are loyal cadres of the ANC let us not be too > proud and think the organization is invincible and therefor cannot be > subjected to any threats be it from within or externally. Lambasting members > when raising concerns merely provides evidence that there is no room for > deliberation/debate in the ANC. That in turn dents the image of the > movement. After all they say "don't argue with a fool as people won't see the > difference". Now the question is "who is the fool?" >>> "Shadrack Mfunele" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/9/2008 11:10 AM >>> > No one in the ANC is above Constitution of the organization. > > It became clear yesterday that, Lekota assume his is above the National > Conference of the ANC. Confidently can stand before the entire South African > population and question the leadership of the organization without remorse. > It is unfortunate because this man is the former leader of the organization > and trusted member of Cabinet. Maybe, we should conduct an objectively > analysis of decisions influenced by his unsober and unconstructive radical > practices effected during his era. We need to do that because one begin to > doubt the validity of such in bring about development in South Africa or were > they meant for personal and selfish interests. > > Comrades, > > What is at stake? Is it the ANC, Alliance and mass democratic movement, > Lekota and his cronies or the people of South Africa? > > ANC Today, We will prove there is no alternative to the ANC > Volume 8, No. 39 • 3—9 October 2008, page 1 par.4 entails that: > “We carry a weighty responsibility, to honour through our actions the proud > traditions of struggle that have characterised our Alliance over decades. > Most importantly, we carry a responsibility to the people of this country, > and to the generations that will follow, to lead a national democratic > revolution that will banish from our society all forms of discrimination, > oppression and deprivation.” > > Who is he then? Can we recall the student life Mr. Lekota? I suggest we all > make reference to the History of student politics during the times of > boTerror. > > > ANC Today, The one and only ANC! > Volume 8, No. 1 • 11—17 January 2008 > “There is not one among us who is exempt from this responsibility. If we are > to achieve what conference has demanded of us, we will each have to do > everything in our power to ensure that the precious torch we now carry is > indeed passed on to the next generation undiminished.” > > Who is Terror compared to this tasks? Can he managed the contemporary > challenges that confront the Democratic project? > > Comrades, > > We should all be happy of this big organization capable of developing > leaders like boTerror who are able more than the NEC to convene national and > international media to the attention of the world. > > Really this man is committed and dreaming to expose democratic programme to > the benefit of the capitalist programme. > > I pause. > > Motosi Mfunele > > > > MATJHABENG LOCAL MUNICIPALITY E-MAIL DISCLAIMER NOTICE > The opinions expressed are those of the individual and not the company. This > message contains confidential information and is intended for the entity > named above. 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