i think vincent took the words right out of my mouth On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Vincent Masoga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > Neo > > Trade unions are not a product of liberation struggle only in South > Africa. They are a product of the unity of the oppressed humans who > are exploited by their fellow for the benefit of the few humans in the > form of economic, social & political dominance through the state. > > For as long as there remains a private property and the state the > protects it, the trade unions will always be there. Their relation to > the ANC as the alliance is a result of ANC 's own adoption of the > freedom charter that proclaims the universal adoption of basic human > rights, the creation of a people' (irrespective of race & gender or > age) government for all the people, the need for housing, health, > education, jobs, security & wealth for all who live on this wealthy > land. > > The alliance is not at all based on the percieved friendship between > Zuma, Vavi, Nzimande or Malema. It is a historic alliance that is > neither based on the sentiments of rhetoric, rather the ideals of a > free society & respect for human life and dignity at all levels. > > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Nkopane, Neo (Mr) (s207029969) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > MANDLA!!!! GA WETHU!!! > > > > CADRES IN ARMS FOR THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA, I > > WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASISE GREATELY ON THE DEBATE OF WHERE OUR COUNTRY IS > > HEADING TO, IN TERMS OF SOCIAL & ECONOMICAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE MASSES AT > > LARGE. WE CAN NOT DENY THE FACT THAT WE AS POLITICIANS OR POLITICALLY > MINDED > > PEOPLE WE ARE FAILING THE PEOPLE AT GRASS ROOT LEVEL. TAKE FOR INSTANCE > THE > > CHILD LIVING IN A SHACK WITH GRANDPARENTS SUPPORTING HER/HIM. WHERE DOES > > DEMOCRACY COME TO EFFECTIVENESS IN THIS SITUATION WHEN WE ARE BUSY > FIGHTING > > AMONGST EACH OTHER FOR POSITIONS AND HIERACHIES!!!!! SOUTH AFRICANS WAKE > UP > > FROM YOUR SLAMBER CUZ THIS WORLD IS NOT FOR THE WEAK, MANIPULATIVE AND > > EGOLISTIC CABALS OF THIS WORLD CUZ PRESIDENT BARACK PROVED. ALL THAT > SOUTH > > AFRICA NEEDS IS THAT THE RULING PARTY ANC HAS TO MAKE ITS DECISIONS ALONE > > WITHOUT THE ADVISE AND ASSITANCE OF THE ALLIANCE. PEOPLE THINK ANC IS THE > > TRI-ALLIANCE OF WHICH IT IS THE OPPOSITE CUZ WE FORMULATED THE TRADE > UNIONS > > TO FIGHT THE REGIME OF APARTHEID WITHIN SOUTH AFRICA PRE 1994. TO THE > > DISSENTS ALL I CAN SAY IS, "YOU WERE COWARDS TO SPEAK AND REPRESENT WHAT > IS > > THE TRUTH CUZ YOU KNEW THE TRUTH!!!!" ALIATA CONTINUA!!!!!!!! > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > Behalf Of Mark Biggars [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 11 November 2008 11:50 AM > > To: Mapempeni, Thembani (Mr) (s20634402); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Fw: Proposed program for order and structure > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > From: Mark Biggars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:48:11 AM > > Subject: Re: Proposed program for order and structure > > > > Dear CRG; Community reps both the executive & non executives. > > > > > > > > Please, every time I come to a meeting in Meadowlands, there seems to be > a > > problem with safety as there are no "Security Personel" employed directly > or > > sub-contracted to ensure the safety of persons and property. > > > > > > > > A proposal was made by a community representative of our community that > > CRG-SA be requested to first hold a workshop on "Meeting Procedure" for > all > > ACER members. This was not taken seriously by the ACER Executive and is > part > > of "Business of ACER" which had to be voted on. > > > > We come from different backgrounds and some of us have not had the same > > education or exposure as others. If this does not happen then we will > have > > to ask the DME to intervene on this matter. > > > > > > > > If we ACER Members are truly on the committee not for personal gain, but > to > > represent the interest of our communities, namely the poorest of the > poor, > > then our meetings should also have areas where members of the public and > the > > media may listen to proceedings as does Parliament which is the highest > > Elected Community Representatives of South Africa. > > > > > > > > At one meeting in Meadowlands a remark was address to me that we are all > ANC > > members and know what to do, well not all of us has been on an ANC > Executive > > so I look to the ANC Branch Manual for direction and this is what it > states: > > > > 1. The Executive is the branch/community management and > it > > is here that all the administrative reports, financial reports, and > > assessments of programmes should take place. End all Executive meetings > by > > planning the next branch/community meeting and discussing agenda items, > > speakers and what reports will be presented; > > > > 2. The Constitution spells out the role, powers and > > responsibilities of executive members. Executive members should take > their > > responsibilities seriously and should be called to account if they fail > to > > fulfill their ask, they are elected at the bi-annual general meeting by > the > > branch/community; > > > > 3. The Executive has to work as a collective. There > should > > be frank and open discussion and collective decision-making about all > major > > issues. Leaders are elected because members/communities trust them to > lead > > the way. A leader in the army will need different qualities from a leader > of > > a community organisation; > > > > 4. Executive members should not: get involved in > factions > > and conflicts; make false promises or tell lies; take support for > granted; > > discourage any member/community who wants to work on something; > > > > 5. The chair's role in the meeting is not just to > organize > > the order of speakers. The chair must try and facilitate good, democratic > > decision making and a clear process, by example saying that there are now > 2 > > positions on the floor and outlining them and reminding people that they > > have to reach a decision. Do not cut people short simply because you > > disagree with what they are saying, let them have there say. Never > humiliate > > or undermined someone in public; > > > > 6. As a branch/community chair you have to behave like a > > very good soccer coach not like a bad boss or military commander. It is > your > > job to get the whole branch/community team to play together to develop > their > > individual talent; > > > > 7. The Secretary is responsible for taking/disseminating > > minutes, for communicating with the branch/community and convening > meetings > > and making sure that everyone is judicially informed of the date, time > and > > venue and the issues on the agenda. The Secretary has to ensure that task > > are done and assist people failing to do their work. > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Mark. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: thabo rangwaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 10:45:55 AM > > Subject: Proposed program for order and structure > > > > Dear Community Reps > > > > Following a mandate that myself and Godfrey were given by the DME to > > facilitate ACER's organisational structure, attached are suggestions for > us > > to consider. > > > > Best Regards > > > > Thabo Rangwaga > > Affected Community Elected Representative > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOTICE: Please note that this eMail, and the contents thereof, > > is subject to the standard NMMU eMail disclaimer which may be found at: > > <http://www.nmmu.ac.za/disclaimer/email.htm>> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > VM > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. 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