Cde Mxolisi You have a point however, let us first put your assertions to the test with what we currently have. That is ensure that the current SOE's and government itself are run effeciently. You and I know very well that should you lose a document that can only be provided by he state, you contemplate for a while before you go and apply for another one because of the ineffeciencies you will be faced with when you get there. Even worse the poorest of the poor who recieve social grants, go to government hospitals etc. My take on this is let us perfect what we have and then slowly take in more chunks as we get smarter in the way we do things. Tumelo G.
From: Mxolisi Mlatha To: [email protected] Sent: Fri Jul 10 08:58:50 SAST 2009 Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: the NP govt was more socialist than the ANC govt. Comrade Domza If we say reform is reform and revolution is revolution we may create artificial boundaries of what occurs within a revolution. Let us take for instance the issue of the redistribution of land, it is a reform but can also be defined as a revolutionary reform depending on the content of the reform. This are issues that Lenin well tabulated in "Two Tactics of Social Democracy in the Democratic Revolution." It would be wrong to say we must first strenghten the working class organizations before we pursue the class interests of the working class, because apparently pursuing such interests will divert us from building working class organizations and by implication power. Is such power not about creating a working class orientated state? It is almost as if we are saying in the current context the working class cannot achieve any thing we must wait for socialism. I appreciate the useful examples that Domza gives about the experiences on nationalism in SA, but these are premised on the basis of the hegemony of bourgoesie class interests, true the fundamentals of the apartheid capitalist state are still in place. But does this mean a working class orientated movement that is in power cannot nationalise on the basis of its own terms. The latter refer to the detail and intent that such nationalization would be directed to. The tactical priority choices whether its Mittal first or not are all content issues that we can pursue which Domza infact seem to support if hes views are followed to the logical conclusion in this discussion. Mxolisi --- Sent from UnionMail Service [http://mail.union.org.za] --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] . -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
