thank you cde for raising these issue which i believe there are among many other contradictions that the NDR imposes on the working class. the same cdes you vote are the same cde that will tell you take it or leave it. now i am not even talking about the BEE fat cats but to those who run state departments and municipalities. some times they think that they are the bosses and in my view the voters are the bosses not the other way around. until the workers (producers) realise and understand the power they have in society and use this power to fulfill their historic purpose of leading a socialist revolution that will bring us closer to communism. there are illusions that JZ will bring about drastic and radical changes and its only time that will tell if he will be at the end. but if one understands how government works and how parliament works and its origins the working calss will be disappoited at the end because he will not be able to do what he promised to do not because he does not want to but because of the real true contradictions of capitalistic democracy. again i am not saying there will completely no gains a t all but these will always be limited because of the dominat ruling class interest within the ANC for starters, let alone other capitalist from with the country and abroad.
i think i should also touch on the fact that workers have no country, as capiatlism is loyal to no country. the products that we consume are made by workers from all over the world regardless of national boudaries and consumed regadless of national boudaries. thus the preamble of the communist manifesto when marx and engels wrote it and it says 'workers of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but the chains of oppression and the whole world to win" this is true even today and this what we should be doing building the socialist project from below and not from above. when we put cdes into power we don't put them so that they become our bosses but to serve us and what is happening is the opposite of that. we vote these mayors into office and they think that they know it all and become arrogant towards the very same people that they put them into power. Power to the workers! not technocrats and beaurecrats! power to the wokers and not capitalist and their apologiests. benz is a german undertaking,(but it does not belong to the workers of germany) (and the same could be said about shorprite, oldmutual, pick n 'pay etc) but assembled in SA in East London, but its parts are made by workers some in australia, brazil, germany etc. and no workers of a particular country could be the only claimants of the final product as the workers throughout the production chain are cheated of their lobour at the end if the day. From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:35:13 +0200 Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] What is Role of Trade Unions in advacing National Democratic Revolution? What is the Role of Trade Union in advancing National Democratic Revolution… Cadres, the above question need to be unpack in not to make only a points. I think it need all cadres to frank on it and clearly identify the role of trade unions in the revolution, especially in South Africa after 1994. The reason why I raise this question is because of the current developments in our country, I will be specific… This year members of SAMWU (South African Municipal Workers Union) has reach a deadlock with SALGA that is what suppose to become an employer which is structure lead by cadres of the movement, different mayors and some prominent leaders those who participated in this revolution. The demands are reasonable and the respond and the proposal from the Conciliatory was to my view fair. But there us a mood that workers want to engage on strike because of the offer that is on table. As workers, we were of the view that we want 15% and the employer clearly state that he can give us only 10.5%, while the conciliatory proposed 11.5%. So now million dollar question, are we really advancing an elements of socialism if us, people those who suppose to protect, defend and sacrifice for this freedom we choose to be greedy and betray our own movement.? What is exactly role of trade unions? Because most of them they are in forefront when there is time for wage negotitations, they don`t assist in terms of strategy on how can as workers fight poverty. They don`t engage in strategies on how can we as workers being part in this development of our own country by encouraging workers to be productive and patriotic. At the moment I personally think that there is third force infiltrating our progressive trade unions in causing difficulties as far as service delivery is concern. Example: City of Joburg Emergency Services workers went on strike for almost a month, who suffered? Is not their employers, not their medical supplier not Amos Masondo for sure. People those who suffer is our working class and the poor. Because they cannot afford private ambulance services, the money our people earning far less for them to be able to have medical aids. SAMA: Doctors are worse, they go on strike during the day and work at private hospitals during the nite. Who is suffering working class and the poor those who utilise the public hospitals etc. Cadres don`t get me wrong some unions are very progressive they fight brutality of capitalism, but they failed to stop monopoly, they fail to stop capitalism. I think, this is my view that there is a third force that actually instigate the whole processes of the demonstrations especially by doctors. We are now in need of all movements to make sure that we build and support this government. Ke tseo maqabane Magoro Segoahla Legal and Administration Public Participation , Ward Community and Secretariate City of Ekurhuleni Tel: (011) 999 4387 Fax: 086 513 0055 Cell: 083 770 8895 Email : [email protected] From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of frank talk Sent: 12 June 2009 11:21 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Corrupt cadres defeat the purpose Revolutionary greetings Cdes I'm suggesting that it was high time that we started raising issue (internally) with some of our comrades in the alliance whom we've mandated to run the government machinery but as soon as they're there they forget priority number one and indulge in maladministrative practicies. I'm referring to those individuals who are known to be abusing their powers in office; performing their duties to them is not as important as flounting their newly acquired wealth; they ask bribes, ask sexual favours, bunk work. An careful study of chronicles of factors that have always led to the downfall of African governments (post-colonialism) proves that maladministration, nepotism, favouratism and tolerance for mediocrity has led to total collapse of their bureaucracies. The TM era has come and gone; what counts most is not to sit around, point out at government's failures when it is, at times, our very own comrades who are failing the system; this defeats the whole purpose; it is infact counterrevolutionary! We can't risk having our new pro-democratic administration fettered by few corrupt individuals who are out to drive thier own narrow self-indulgent agenda. Let's rise up, take full ownership of what is truly ours; let's take care of our electorate. They say Socialism won't come on a silver platter and our struggle will indeed be long! Talk Frank Socialism is the Future; Build It Now! 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