Comrades, A lot of comrades are now out of order.Isn't fighting the ANCYL president in this forum playing the man instead of playing the ball ? I joined this forum to grow while listening and interacting with constructive views with fellow comrades but not to watch people trying to achieve their own interest. Can we Cdes learn to respond instead of reacting .Emotional inputs had never won any debate.
Let everyone be rational when raising his/ her point.Let us not loose focus. To me both Cdes raised personal attacks. Im now expecting Cde Malema to publicly apologize for his misconduct. Amandla!! >>> sipho shandu <[email protected]> 11/26/2009 12:05 PM >>> It is however a misfortune that some of us who have rallied behind the party and the alliance for years have to witness the wrong choice we have made in choosing that lumpen boy Julius as the youth league president. Firstly, this boy has no respect for anyone except his beloved grandmother! This boy is a loose cannon that can point at anyone and fire at anytime! I understand the sentiments posted by the youth league in saying that they accept cde Cronin's apology but my question is when are they going to tell their head boy to release an apologetic statement to cde Cronin and the YCL as a whole?! We are not kids and i would like to make it a point to anyone in this forum that we know our rights. We have ousted a president who had showed that he could not carry the mandate of the people before and we could do it again if Julius does not get his loose wet mouth to behave. Calling senior cdes "white messiahs" is just not on! We have avoided the fact that Julius is a non-listener period! He could not listen at school and that should be enough evidence to say that he will not listen to anyone! We as the active youth in the province will not take such nonsense from this boy! The time has come for him to be hit with a vote of no confidence! He once said that we as the youth will kill for zuma, but now we as the youth will kill to replace malema! Malema is not the ANCYL, he is a member and just like any member, he must behave according to the set rules of the ANCYL!!! * It must also however be made clear to all that we do not have space for EMPTISTS in the ANC or ANCYL!!! * Amandla! On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Mduduzi H Vilakazi <[email protected]>wrote: > Cde Floyd, > > Thanks for the piece welcoming Cde Jeremy's input. I thought it would be > wise that the ANCYL apologize to Cde Jeremy and the YCLSA membership for the > statements attributed to the President of the ANCYL around the issue of the > program of action and membership. > > Does the Youth League sniff in other organisation's documents. I am > directly addressing this to you because you are a member as well as part of > the National Leadership Collective of YCLSA. You are also directly affected > by the statements uttered by Cde Julius. I do not think that the ANCYL > agrees with such statements, thus it will be correct that the ANCYL > apologises or distance itself from such utterances. > > I hope that you will not respond directly to me but to the issues I have > raised above in this forum. > > Amandla!!!!! > > > > > > >>> Nyiko Floyd Shivambu <[email protected]> 25/11/2009 16:04 >>> > > *ANC YOUTH LEAGUE WELCOMES CDE JEREMY CRONIN’S LATEST RESPONSE:* > > *25 November 2009* > > The African National Congress Youth League welcomes the input by Comrade > Jeremy Cronin posted in the South African Communist Party’s website. We are > particularly relieved that Comrade Cronin engages with the Youth League’s > call for nationalisation after re-reading the conceptual framework we > released in July 2009. The ANC YL also accepts the apology from the Deputy > Secretary General of the SACP, Jeremy Cronin who has risen above narrow > squabbles and accepts on areas he erred. The Youth League holds Comrade > Je remy Cronin in high regard and appreciates the fact that he is one of the > best intellectuals produced by the revolutionary movement in South Africa. > > ** > > Comrade Jeremy’s latest intervention proves that the debate on > Nationalisation is a complex question, not meant for those who entered the > discussion only trough insults, such as the YCL, the Western Cape and > Mpumalanga SACP. Those who lack substance entered the discussion through > hurling insults at the ANC Youth League President without comprehending the > context and content of what the ANC Youth League says on nationalisation. We > call on all structures of the Mass Democratic Movement and activists to > always interact with official positions of the Youth League before they > engage with us. 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