FROM AN AXIOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE, IT WILL BE WHEN HUMANS ARE COMPLETE...CMPLETION IS WHEN HUMAN BEINGS HAVE...AS WOMEN AND MEN...
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Thabang Ngcozela <[email protected]>wrote: > Success of communism will be measured by how much those we usually look > down at advances in all areas of life. > > > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:55:06 +0200 > > > Subject: Re: FW: Re: FW: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] DEPLOYMENT FROM HEAVEN > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > Cde, > > > 1. To say that a comrade is a mere "activist" who will "never" come to > > > the desired level of "being" suggests mental retardation on the part > > > of the "proponent" who would by all means impart such retardation to > > > others so that they can be benchmarked by his/ her state of static > > > retardness...That was offensive and deserved what it got... > > > 2. I find nothing difficult with developing marxism as a system of > > > ideas, nor do I regard Marx as this super-genious...rather I regard > > > him as a person who laid foundation for the development of the > > > society...I can see flaws in his system and like any other > > > system...seeks maintainance... > > > 3. An axiological perspective on class analysis is to study the value > > > system or value judgements of that class analysis...and it doesn't > > > alter our understanding at all but it harnesses and propells it other > > > heights...the Struggle between humanisation...and dehumanisation...the > > > oppressor and the oppressor...the capitalist class and the alienated > > > working class... > > > 4.the point behind the question on "the value of commodified labour > > > (power) to be precise is raised against the incomplete nature of > > > Marxism...and the answer...though it was never included...is quite > > > easily accessible...and it doesn't take a genious...of ntsembeyi's > > > stature or a figure out...but it merely needs research...so here I'm > > > trying to break the religious myth or DOGMA THAT MARXISM IS > > > COMPLETE... > > > 5. With regard to the issue of "value of commodified labour > > > power",..I'm consulting broadly with other socialists > > > internationaly....and they find no anomaly...with anyone making a > > > contribution of developing Marxism...and my intended approach is to > > > come an exegisis...of Das Kapital Vol1... > > > Xoli.. > > > > > > On 2/16/10, Brendan Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> xoli, > > >> > > >> you have missed the point of this forum. > > >> > > >> we do not shoot people or take shots at people here. > > >> > > >> we form a discourse that helps to benifit everybody. > > >> > > >> if you feel that this forum will benefit from your understanding of > > >> the "value of commodified labour" then by all mean start a topic where > > >> this can be discussed. > > >> > > >> retardation is a medical disorder, to suggest that people who struggle > > >> to grapple with issues suffer from a mental disorder is offensive and > > >> shows a complete disregard for understanding on your behalf. > > >> > > >> i often struggle to comprehend complex issues, which is why i ask > > >> comrades to engage with me on these subjects in the hope of all of us > > >> coming to a better understanding and finding clarity in difficult > > >> subjects. this is why this forum exists and are the principles to > > >> which this forum is based on. > > >> > > >> on a side note i have read your comments and seek clarity as to what > > >> is meant by an 'axiological view of class struggle.' of course i > > >> understand the words but in what manner does it alter our > > >> understanding of class struggle > > >> you could say im grappling with an understanding of this statement > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> You are subscribed. 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All you have to do is to send an > > > e-mail to this address (repeat): > > > [email protected] . > > > ______________________ > > > > Cde Xoli > > If it happens that we arrive to the discussion forum to show others that > > we are the better under standers by undermining the contribution of other > > people if they battle to understand your point that will be incorrect. > > Comrades there are better ways of letting an individual understand the > > points in discussions not degrading his/her inputs by suggesting that you > > are better thought out as compare to another leaders. > > I hope that Cde Xoli you bitterly understand the purpose of this forum > and > > you may not want to degenerate it unnecessarily so please can you please > > leave in that standard before we can find ourselves drawn into you agenda > > we might not know what is it that it seeks to achieve. > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > South Africa's premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm > > > > -- > > You are subscribed. 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