I think you are making a mistake here by saying that insults and labelling are part of this forum. I am surprised that no one here bothered to call order on you. It is people like you portrayed as revolutionaries by their peers who give this revolution a bad name.
As much as I am not a communist or Marxist (Not because of my religious beliefs) I refuse to believe that they give their members entitlement to insult and label others to make friends to deliberately create enemies. I am not going to tolerate your insults and negative labelling that are not really opart of what Marxists are all about. It is people liek yourself who misrepresents what the old man said about religion, with your poor understanding of Marxism and how it was intended to unfold in the world. I don't even think that it is acceptable for us to be making enemies of each other, certainly not in teh SA revolution, not even China nor Cuba is advocating such nonsense as you want us to believe. You must also remember that Christianity in this country has played a role as well, during the struggle against apartheid. You might not like that fact, but you would not change it, irrespective of the type of thesis you can write about the fallacie sof religion. Christianity played a role in this country's liberation and liberation theology was a key as well. South America has experience of this theology as well. This is where people who follow Marxism are and they do not make such silly remarks about Christianity. I ma not trying to convert you to become a Christian as I respect your choice not to believe, but I hope you will tolerate what yu do not believe in, as I am not an aspiring communist, but do not have a problem, with that ideology. What you need, I think, is some dose of tolerance and better understanding of correct Marxism > Botipe, > Chief you must understand this was not about the religion and it has > nothing to do with christianity.By joining this forum you agree to be part > of the marxist world in search of the only and the only truth.However as > we > get deeper in our experementation some will be hurt and some would > cry.Unfortunately it is the game itself and if you willing to play you > must > tolerate the labellings,insults as part of the game.We are not in an > NGO's. > some times is hot and as it get hot friends becomes enemies and enemies > becomes friends.It is a game with no referee . > > > Thanks > Howard > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Dear Cadres, >> >> I think it is true that we lack political debates these days, seeing >> what >> other comrades are tading against each other here. It is a sorry state >> of >> our current politics, and it does not really surprise us even national >> leades in the youth leagues and the alliance in general has stoop this >> low >> in their glory seeking type of politics. >> >> To some in our movement, making serious accusations and attacking other >> cadres, appears to make them good leaders and the messiahs of our >> changing >> politics.Labelling and lampooning other comrades has become daily >> feature >> of our political life. Communists are not immune from suhc as well. >> >> One thing, I think we must not make is to generalise when we speak about >> Christians. Even if you chose not to become one, but at least do not >> insult Christians. Some of us in this movement remain Christians and >> even >> the founders of the ANC were the man of the cloth. >> >> The ANC, at least, is still depending on the votes of the people from >> the >> Church during elections. Your puerile label of Christians as people >> running away from reality is at least un-comradely. I think you are part >> of the members of the communist party worldwide who misunderstood Marx >> when he spoke of religion being the opium of the masses. To some >> religiln >> is personal as communism is personal to those of your ilk. I hope you >> would not repeat that mistake of attacking religion, or any other >> formattion that people subscribe to. At least your attack on the DA will >> be welcome, but not religion. >> >> The problem of brining your personal attacks in to this forum is also >> silly. None of you should lobby our symphathy, with what you have >> started >> through your poor level of debates. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > comrades I am suprised of Umfundisi's latest responce to me via >> facebook, >> > He has actually sent me a treath as you may read bellow: >> > Messages >> > New message >> > Back to MessagesSelect allSelect noneMark as ReadMark as unreadReport >> > spamDeleteUnsubscribe >> > Select: All, Read, None >> > Show:AllUnread >> > Between You and Xoli Dlabantu >> > >> > Xoli Dlabantu18 February at 17:55 >> > do you have to swear that much...what happens when we meet? what if I >> have >> > the resources to trace >> > >> > >> > To Xoli the Preist: >> > >> > I do not have to worry yet again with your unfounded christain >> believes, >> > thing is you have just confermed my long suspitions that all >> christains >> > are nothing but an escape from reality... So my freind You know know >> how >> I >> > look you may at any time use your resources and trace me!!! >> > >> > Well think twice cuase life is to short to hold gradges!!! >> > >> > I rest my case!!! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >> > Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply >> to >> > this message. >> > You can visit the group WEB SITE at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >> > options, pages, files and membership. >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email >> [email protected] >> > . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't >> have >> > to put anything in the message part. 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