Re: [YCLSA Discussion]

Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:24:38 -0800

I am glad that somebody is writing here about religion in a measured way, with circumspection and respect, as Marx himself did (especially in the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right).

I prepared long ago a "course" on Religion and Revolutionary Politics. It is here:

http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/Religion+and+Revolutionary+Politics

More recently, I combined it with Philosophy, here:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/communist-university/web/philosophy-and-religion---index

I wish we could continue to maintain a dialogue about religion. In my opinion, religious organisations are, among other things, mass organisations of the people, and we as Communists should treat them as such.

VC





[email protected] wrote: 
I think you are making a mistake here by saying that insults and labelling
are part of this forum. I am surprised that no one here bothered to call
order on you. It is people like you portrayed as revolutionaries by their
peers who give this revolution a bad name.

As much as I am not a communist or Marxist (Not because of my religious
beliefs) I refuse to believe that they give their members entitlement to
insult and label others to make friends to deliberately create enemies. I
am not going to tolerate your insults and negative labelling that are not
really opart of what Marxists are all about.

It is people liek yourself who misrepresents what the old man said about
religion, with your poor understanding of Marxism and how it was intended
to unfold in the world. I don't even think that it is acceptable for us to
be making enemies of each other, certainly not in teh SA revolution, not
even China nor Cuba is advocating such nonsense as you want us to believe.


You must also remember that Christianity in this country has played a role
as well, during the struggle against apartheid. You might not like that
fact, but you would not change it, irrespective of the type of thesis you
can write about the fallacie sof religion. Christianity played a role in
this country's liberation and liberation theology was a key as well.
South America has experience of this theology as well. This is where
people who follow Marxism are and they do not make such silly remarks
about Christianity.

I ma not trying to convert you to become a Christian as I respect your
choice not to believe, but I hope you will tolerate what yu do not believe
in, as I am not an aspiring communist, but do not have a problem, with
that ideology.



What you need, I think, is some dose of tolerance and better understanding
of correct Marxism

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