greetings key debate indeed,but my view is that these elements of undermining organisational discipline creates a wrong precedence that shall not find remedial measures in future because it does mean that if a particular faction emerges in the organisation then we shall then run to judicial courts which by nature cannot be unbiased given the fact that these institutions are products of the contradictions in society therefore they have a particular lineage that locates the societal expressions on a particular issue,then we may as well agree to the last decay of organisation,because the creeping of this tendency is scientifically irreversable given that is informed by subjectivism.even those that goes to courts and the decision is on their favour they will still also at the particular time of them leading find the expression of this because non homogeneity in the organisation,more especially when the capital hegemony forms part of the centrality of this tendency.
the only solution is that we must use the organisation platfom to fight our own entitist elements and if we fail we must learn to swallow whatever the outcome bitter as it may we must just swallow it.because this is the organisation your entitist tendency shall find emergence at a particular time,but by going to courts exacerbate the matter itself because it means we start to beleive that external institutions may assist the with instilling the discipline in the organisation,which is wrong view because is tantamount to say judiciary informs the society,the societal organisations are the ones which the judicial posturing is derived,now the externalisation of our organisational discipline shall decay the organisation,like other organisation which decayed and died today like the movent of amilca cabral,of arab moi in kenya and many others which externalised their organisation to locate solutions as part of their factional battles and so on. So we must continue with decaying element or rescue the organisation by learning to understand that whatever happen in it not all of us will be satisfied wit decisions,i can imagine if chris hani would have went to court to challenge the decision of arm struggle disbandment or just took his own faction and fought the decision the organisation took what would have happened. lets engage > To all comrades > > The situation has arrived to a point within which individuals are > proclaiming the worships and praises by the general members at the > expenses of the general members. The interest of the organization is no > more the primary objectives of all the structures of our organisations, > the ANCYL in particular. > > It is with dismay that still at this time we have the internal counter > revolutionaries whose interest is to expose their social ills by trying to > hi-jack the organisation and its history. It then remain integral that all > young people within the country begins to stand firm for their rights > against the demonic actions that perpetuated the inequality within our > country and this is coursed by nothing other that the high level of > dubiousness portrayed by the leadership of the ANCYL currently. > > Can any one of within the NEC of YL would be proud of the fact that he/she > had served within the leadership that loses the values and principles of > the organisation? but maybe this is the time to observe the Manaung > Congress repercations and what it had produced to our current leadership. > > I would like to agree with the notion of the PYA rescuing the situation > before our history got distorted worse. > > I remain Mmbengeni Takalani the member of the ANCYL Langalibalele Dube > Branch (Sedibeng) > >> Comrades, it's time for the PYA to intervene in the ANCYL saga as the >> situation has reached alarming proportions. I think the best interests >> of >> the organisation need to be put first against differences of the >> leadership of ANCYL and all its structures. >> >> If reports that the ANCYL has rejected mediation efforts to resolve >> differences through negotiated settlements, are anything to go by >> then one >> would not be faulted for holding a view that the leadership has not >> shown >> any sign of willingness to save the organisation from this worsening >> instability within structures. >> >> The problem is that this instability would create a fertile >> ground for opportunists and all sorts of elements with ulterior motives >> to >> make a meal out of this to champion their own agenda. >> >> It's for this reason that PYA needs to step in and address all of >> this chaos in the best interest of the organisation. >> >> Remain, >> Morgan Phaahla >> >> "Sometimes, if you wear suits for too long, it changes your ideology." - >> Joe Slovo >> >> --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Dominic.Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> From: Dominic.Tweedie <[email protected]> >> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Malema leadership rejected >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 5:52 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Malema leadership rejected by 5 factions >> >> >> Sibusiso Ngalwa, Sunday Independent, Johannesburg, 11 July 2010 >> >> Julius Malema's ANC Youth League is disintegrating, with three more >> provinces headed for the courts - as factions in most provinces reject >> his >> leadership. >> >> The Sunday Independent can report that Mpumalanga's Ehlanzeni regional >> leadership will file an urgent application in the high court tomorrow >> seeking to nullify the "bogus" regional conference which took place this >> weekend. >> >> Ehlanzeni (Nelspruit) regional secretary Diketso Khanyile said they >> would >> be getting a mandate from their structures about going to court. >> Ehlanzeni >> is Mpumalanga's biggest region, with 92 branches. >> >> Meanwhile, the disbanded Western Cape and North West want to challenge >> the >> decision to dissolve them, citing the precedent set by the findings of >> the >> Grahamstown High Court on Friday in the matter involving the disbanded >> Eastern Cape provincial executive. >> >> Judge Nomathamsanqa Beshe found the decision by the league's national >> working committee (NWC) to disband the Eastern Cape provincial executive >> committee (PEC) "unlawful". >> >> This means five provinces or factions in Limpopo, North West, Western >> Cape, Eastern Cape and Mpumalanga are rebelling against Malema's >> leadership. >> >> Eastern Cape, Western Cape and the North West were disbanded by the >> Malema-controlled national leadership. >> >> Apparently youth league secretary-general Vuyiswa Tulelo - during a >> meeting with some members of the disbanded Western Cape PEC on Friday - >> accused those who had failed to attend the meeting of plotting to take >> the >> organisation to court. She could not be reached for comment. >> >> A Western Cape youth leader said: "The court outcome changes >> everything... >> it proves our argument that the NEC has no powers to disband provinces". >> >> North West league chairman Khoza Pelele said they were preparing to go >> to >> court tomorrow too. >> >> "The problem is that if you don't agree with (the national leadership) >> then you are disbanded. They are killing the youth league and we won't >> allow that," said Pelele. >> >> So far, Malema's enemies have the upper-hand given the psychological and >> legal boost from the league's loss in the Eastern Cape court. Triumphant >> Eastern Cape chairman Mlibo Qoboshiyana - who dubbed Malema "an >> embarrassment" in court papers - said the Grahamstown outcome was a >> "lesson" to Malema's leadership. >> >> ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe said they had met with the league >> with the view to assist. >> >> While the youth league is understood to be planning to expel the >> dissidents, Mantashe hinted that "high- handedness does not build an >> organisation". The court cases were a consequence of "some degree of >> instability" in the youth league, he said. >> >> But Malema is not giving up yet. Spokesman Floyd Shivambu indicated that >> they would appeal the Grahamstown ruling. >> >> Tomorrow the Joburg High Court will hear arguments in Masoga's case. He >> wants the court to stop his pending expulsion. >> >> He has run a parallel provincial structure after his faction abandoned a >> chaotic conference and the Malema faction was "unanimously" elected. >> >> >> From: http://www.sundayindependent.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=5550839 >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >> Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply >> to >> this message. >> You can visit the group WEB SITE at >> http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >> options, pages, files and membership. >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email >> [email protected] >> . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have >> to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an >> e-mail to this address (repeat): >> [email protected] . >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >> Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply >> to >> this message. >> You can visit the group WEB SITE at >> http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >> options, pages, files and membership. >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email >> [email protected] >> . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have >> to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an >> e-mail to this address (repeat): >> [email protected] . >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > South Africa's premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm > > -- > You are subscribed. This footer can help you. > Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to > this message. > You can visit the group WEB SITE at > http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery > options, pages, files and membership. > To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] > . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have > to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an > e-mail to this address (repeat): > [email protected] . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ South Africa's premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] .
