Subscribers to the YCLSA Discussion Forum,
 
I have raised it before and will raise it today, the requirement for the 
subscription in this forum is very simple and should be understood by all of 
us. The only details I furnished was my e-mail address. Unless others 
subscribed otherwise. There was a time where e-mail addresses were sent to 
Domza to subscribe or unsubscribe people. Shortly, the issue of membership of 
YCLSA should not be made a requirement because some subscribers, due to age, do 
not qualify to be members of YCLSA.
 
I would like to appreciate the voluntary efforts that comrade Domza has shown 
in the running of this forum. He has made the forum an interesting centre for 
information. Though some people chose to be economical with their observation 
regarding the information he uploads daily. They are hell bent to defend an 
individual who continues to shoot himself in the leg. 
 
Does Botipe only see Malema related article or he deliberately ignore other 
posts from Domza because of his obsession (either for Domza or Malema). Let me 
open his eyes, of late Domza posted a Business Day Article writen by Morgan 
Phaahla (one of the forum subscribers) on media tribunal. He also posted 
Umsebenzi Online, Volume 9, No. 14, 22 July 2010, the SAA lesson. Is Botipe 
that blind to see these latest articles, obviously no, the reason is his 
obsession of either Domza or Julius.

 
When I subscribed to this forum, I was bullied by many comrades and accused of 
being a member of an organisation I did not know but I never backed off because 
I felt my views are important to the effectiveness of this forum. I will never 
subscribe to people but to the organisation. I will never allow anyone to buy 
my soul through patronage and promises of better jobs or tenders or positions 
in the congress movement.
 
I want to request Botipe to back off from seeking to restrict this forum on 
issues it want to comment on or on views we want to share. The openness of the 
subscription to this forum allows for dissenting views and robust debates. We 
are learning communists as Nqaba always put it and will not want to off-ramp 
from that process. Information regutation is key for any situational analysis. 
Unless Botipe's belief is against collection of information (raw as it 
sometimes is) in order to allow for a correct perspective.
 
Julius must stop bullying people around, even commanders do not do such. He is 
even part of those who deliberately cause chaos in conferences of the ANCYL 
that he leads. We will only remember him as an anarchist who will not 
compromise his position even if it means collapsing the ANCYL. Botipe is 
leaving in the past, the present is for the truth and nothing else. If Botipe 
is promised by Julius some tenders, he should focus on that and not use this 
forum to show his loyalty to the disgruntled president.
 
I pause!!!!!!
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
> Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> 7/23/2010 8:36 AM >>>
Yes, indeed Cde Godfrey. Good question.

Whose "apprentice" is Julius Malema?





On 23 July 2010 08:34, Godfrey Simelane <[email protected]> wrote:


Botipe,

Rest assured that no one hates Julias Malema. We like him but not his
actions and disrespect of the working class.He is not our messiah and
has without doubt proved that he is after power, cash ,cash and cash.

He must visit SARS like all of us as he is not David from the bible who
was exempt from tax after killing Goliath.
He must understand that leaders come and go , that will make him focus
on relevant issues that affect the youth.He is an outgoing President of
the youth league but he has achieved nothing except further dividing the
alliance.Advice him not to divide the ANCYL , to take prudent advices
from the elders even if he does not like them.

What is the difference between him and Robert Mugabe ? His management
stye (I cant call it leadership) is foreign.Who is advising him ?

sure

Simelane Godfrey
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013 754 9395

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>>> <[email protected]> 7/22/2010 10:54 PM >>>


Domza and your minions,

It does nor mean that if some union is supporting your anti-Malema
mentality, then you are correct, it does not make you some messiah
into
what should haopen in the Youth League. Please stop using this forum
as
some anti-Malema shit, otherwise you are turning some cadres off from
this
forum. They do not have balls to say it to you, (and please excuse my
language, I thought it is British and with your British journalism
background you would get it quickly).

The union you qouted is not our political panacea, but has its own
problems as well, with unhappy membership and other issues. For you to
want nake use of what they are saying is really unforunate. I wish you
can
explain your hatred of the President of the Youth League (and girls as
one
your fervent minions has put it) to us. Tel us what s that tha we do
not
really see nor get from the man and the leadership collective.

Do you really have to fish for any silly and anti-Malema article from
the
papers everyday of your communist life. Surely, you must be getting
bored
by whatever you do. Really communists are not like that, but what do
we
get surprised for a communist in this country doing that. The President
of
the Youth league is not the first one to go through some communists
obsession, Dep. President of the ANC did while he was the President as
well.

As for your nemesis from cope, I would not really take him serious as I
do
not see any difference bewtween him amd your thinking, but with
tolerance
and not insults from your minions he should be fine, given the imminet
death of cope. THey have issues to deal with through couts of the land
that are already full of backlogs of serious cases, not some silly
political disagreements.

I


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