Botipe,

Who do you think you are calling us Dominic's "Minions"?

Do you know what is a minion?

In fact you what Botipe...I will not tolerate clueless lumpens such as
yourself who always prove themselves as political non-starters whenever they
try to deliberate issues!

Soldier.

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Mduduzi H Vilakazi
<[email protected]>wrote:

>  Subscribers to the YCLSA Discussion Forum,
>
> I have raised it before and will raise it today, the requirement for the
> subscription in this forum is very simple and should be understood by all of
> us. The only details I furnished was my e-mail address. Unless others
> subscribed otherwise. There was a time where e-mail addresses were sent to
> Domza to subscribe or unsubscribe people. Shortly, the issue of membership
> of YCLSA should not be made a requirement because some subscribers, due to
> age, do not qualify to be members of YCLSA.
>
> I would like to appreciate the voluntary efforts that comrade Domza has
> shown in the running of this forum. He has made the forum an interesting
> centre for information. Though some people chose to be economical with their
> observation regarding the information he uploads daily. They are hell bent
> to defend an individual who continues to shoot himself in the leg.
>
> Does Botipe only see Malema related article or he deliberately ignore other
> posts from Domza because of his obsession (either for Domza or Malema). Let
> me open his eyes, of late Domza posted a Business Day Article writen by
> Morgan Phaahla (one of the forum subscribers) on media tribunal. He also
> posted Umsebenzi Online, Volume 9, No. 14, 22 July 2010, the SAA lesson.
> Is Botipe that blind to see these latest articles, obviously no, the reason
> is his obsession of either Domza or Julius.
>
> When I subscribed to this forum, I was bullied by many comrades and accused
> of being a member of an organisation I did not know but I never backed off
> because I felt my views are important to the effectiveness of this forum. I
> will never subscribe to people but to the organisation. I will never allow
> anyone to buy my soul through patronage and promises of better jobs or
> tenders or positions in the congress movement.
>
> I want to request Botipe to back off from seeking to restrict this forum on
> issues it want to comment on or on views we want to share. The openness of
> the subscription to this forum allows for dissenting views and robust
> debates. We are learning communists as Nqaba always put it and will not want
> to off-ramp from that process. Information regutation is key for any
> situational analysis. Unless Botipe's belief is against collection of
> information (raw as it sometimes is) in order to allow for a correct
> perspective.
>
> Julius must stop bullying people around, even commanders do not do such. He
> is even part of those who deliberately cause chaos in conferences of the
> ANCYL that he leads. We will only remember him as an anarchist who will not
> compromise his position even if it means collapsing the ANCYL. Botipe is
> leaving in the past, the present is for the truth and nothing else. If
> Botipe is promised by Julius some tenders, he should focus on that and not
> use this forum to show his loyalty to the disgruntled president.
>
> I pause!!!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> 7/23/2010 8:36 AM >>>
>
> Yes, indeed Cde Godfrey. Good question.
>
> Whose "apprentice" is Julius Malema?
>
>
>
>
>
> On 23 July 2010 08:34, Godfrey Simelane <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Botipe,
>>
>> Rest assured that no one hates Julias Malema. We like him but not his
>> actions and disrespect of the working class.He is not our messiah and
>> has without doubt proved that he is after power, cash ,cash and cash.
>>
>> He must visit SARS like all of us as he is not David from the bible who
>> was exempt from tax after killing Goliath.
>> He must understand that leaders come and go , that will make him focus
>> on relevant issues that affect the youth.He is an outgoing President of
>> the youth league but he has achieved nothing except further dividing the
>> alliance.Advice him not to divide the ANCYL , to take prudent advices
>> from the elders even if he does not like them.
>>
>> What is the difference between him and Robert Mugabe ? His management
>> stye (I cant call it leadership) is foreign.Who is advising him ?
>>
>> sure
>>
>> Simelane Godfrey
>> 072 8081 879
>> 013 754 9395
>>
>> '' wise men put their trust in ideas and not in circumstances ''
>>
>>
>>  *Mduduzi Herman Vilakazi*
>> *Senior Internal Auditor*
>> Dept of P/Works, Roads and Transport
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>>
>> Tel:  013 755 4793/ 013 752 2254
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>> Fax: 086 544 3205/ 013 752 4331
>>
>> "My mission in life is to gather young creative minds to share their
>> thoughts"
>>
>>
>> >>> <[email protected]> 7/22/2010 10:54 PM >>>
>>
>>
>> Domza and your minions,
>>
>> It does nor mean that if some union is supporting your anti-Malema
>> mentality, then you are correct, it does not make you some messiah
>> into
>> what should haopen in the Youth League. Please stop using this forum
>> as
>> some anti-Malema shit, otherwise you are turning some cadres off from
>> this
>> forum. They do not have balls to say it to you, (and please excuse my
>> language, I thought it is British and with your British journalism
>> background you would get it quickly).
>>
>> The union you qouted is not our political panacea, but has its own
>> problems as well, with unhappy membership and other issues. For you to
>> want nake use of what they are saying is really unforunate. I wish you
>> can
>> explain your hatred of the President of the Youth League (and girls as
>> one
>> your fervent minions has put it) to us. Tel us what s that tha we do
>> not
>> really see nor get from the man and the leadership collective.
>>
>> Do you really have to fish for any silly and anti-Malema article from
>> the
>> papers everyday of your communist life. Surely, you must be getting
>> bored
>> by whatever you do. Really communists are not like that, but what do
>> we
>> get surprised for a communist in this country doing that. The President
>> of
>> the Youth league is not the first one to go through some communists
>> obsession, Dep. President of the ANC did while he was the President as
>> well.
>>
>> As for your nemesis from cope, I would not really take him serious as I
>> do
>> not see any difference bewtween him amd your thinking, but with
>> tolerance
>> and not insults from your minions he should be fine, given the imminet
>> death of cope. THey have issues to deal with through couts of the land
>> that are already full of backlogs of serious cases, not some silly
>> political disagreements.
>>
>> I
>>
>>
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