> Comrades I beg you all. Lets discuss the issues affecting the movement and not confine ourselves to personal attacks. Whenever I open this forum I'm interested only political matters affecting the youth not personal attacks or loyalties to individuals. So comrades lets keep the communist spirit alive and must not allow ourselves to be ruled by factionalism.
The issues are many and I think one we should talk only about issues affecting the movement. Zuko Mgawuli Botipe, > > Who do you think you are calling us Dominic's "Minions"? > > Do you know what is a minion? > > In fact you what Botipe...I will not tolerate clueless lumpens such as > yourself who always prove themselves as political non-starters whenever > they > try to deliberate issues! > > Soldier. > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Mduduzi H Vilakazi > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Subscribers to the YCLSA Discussion Forum, >> >> I have raised it before and will raise it today, the requirement for the >> subscription in this forum is very simple and should be understood by >> all of >> us. The only details I furnished was my e-mail address. Unless others >> subscribed otherwise. There was a time where e-mail addresses were sent >> to >> Domza to subscribe or unsubscribe people. Shortly, the issue of >> membership >> of YCLSA should not be made a requirement because some subscribers, due >> to >> age, do not qualify to be members of YCLSA. >> >> I would like to appreciate the voluntary efforts that comrade Domza has >> shown in the running of this forum. He has made the forum an interesting >> centre for information. Though some people chose to be economical with >> their >> observation regarding the information he uploads daily. They are hell >> bent >> to defend an individual who continues to shoot himself in the leg. >> >> Does Botipe only see Malema related article or he deliberately ignore >> other >> posts from Domza because of his obsession (either for Domza or Malema). >> Let >> me open his eyes, of late Domza posted a Business Day Article writen by >> Morgan Phaahla (one of the forum subscribers) on media tribunal. He also >> posted Umsebenzi Online, Volume 9, No. 14, 22 July 2010, the SAA lesson. >> Is Botipe that blind to see these latest articles, obviously no, the >> reason >> is his obsession of either Domza or Julius. >> >> When I subscribed to this forum, I was bullied by many comrades and >> accused >> of being a member of an organisation I did not know but I never backed >> off >> because I felt my views are important to the effectiveness of this >> forum. I >> will never subscribe to people but to the organisation. I will never >> allow >> anyone to buy my soul through patronage and promises of better jobs or >> tenders or positions in the congress movement. >> >> I want to request Botipe to back off from seeking to restrict this forum >> on >> issues it want to comment on or on views we want to share. The openness >> of >> the subscription to this forum allows for dissenting views and robust >> debates. We are learning communists as Nqaba always put it and will not >> want >> to off-ramp from that process. Information regutation is key for any >> situational analysis. Unless Botipe's belief is against collection of >> information (raw as it sometimes is) in order to allow for a correct >> perspective. >> >> Julius must stop bullying people around, even commanders do not do such. >> He >> is even part of those who deliberately cause chaos in conferences of the >> ANCYL that he leads. We will only remember him as an anarchist who will >> not >> compromise his position even if it means collapsing the ANCYL. Botipe is >> leaving in the past, the present is for the truth and nothing else. If >> Botipe is promised by Julius some tenders, he should focus on that and >> not >> use this forum to show his loyalty to the disgruntled president. >> >> I pause!!!!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> 7/23/2010 8:36 AM >>> >> >> Yes, indeed Cde Godfrey. Good question. >> >> Whose "apprentice" is Julius Malema? >> >> >> >> >> >> On 23 July 2010 08:34, Godfrey Simelane <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Botipe, >>> >>> Rest assured that no one hates Julias Malema. We like him but not his >>> actions and disrespect of the working class.He is not our messiah and >>> has without doubt proved that he is after power, cash ,cash and cash. >>> >>> He must visit SARS like all of us as he is not David from the bible who >>> was exempt from tax after killing Goliath. >>> He must understand that leaders come and go , that will make him focus >>> on relevant issues that affect the youth.He is an outgoing President of >>> the youth league but he has achieved nothing except further dividing >>> the >>> alliance.Advice him not to divide the ANCYL , to take prudent advices >>> from the elders even if he does not like them. >>> >>> What is the difference between him and Robert Mugabe ? His management >>> stye (I cant call it leadership) is foreign.Who is advising him ? >>> >>> sure >>> >>> Simelane Godfrey >>> 072 8081 879 >>> 013 754 9395 >>> >>> '' wise men put their trust in ideas and not in circumstances '' >>> >>> >>> *Mduduzi Herman Vilakazi* >>> *Senior Internal Auditor* >>> Dept of P/Works, Roads and Transport >>> Mpumalanga Province >>> >>> Tel: 013 755 4793/ 013 752 2254 >>> Cell: 083 990 8523/ 071 897 2744 >>> Fax: 086 544 3205/ 013 752 4331 >>> >>> "My mission in life is to gather young creative minds to share their >>> thoughts" >>> >>> >>> >>> <[email protected]> 7/22/2010 10:54 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> Domza and your minions, >>> >>> It does nor mean that if some union is supporting your anti-Malema >>> mentality, then you are correct, it does not make you some messiah >>> into >>> what should haopen in the Youth League. Please stop using this forum >>> as >>> some anti-Malema shit, otherwise you are turning some cadres off from >>> this >>> forum. They do not have balls to say it to you, (and please excuse my >>> language, I thought it is British and with your British journalism >>> background you would get it quickly). >>> >>> The union you qouted is not our political panacea, but has its own >>> problems as well, with unhappy membership and other issues. For you to >>> want nake use of what they are saying is really unforunate. I wish you >>> can >>> explain your hatred of the President of the Youth League (and girls as >>> one >>> your fervent minions has put it) to us. Tel us what s that tha we do >>> not >>> really see nor get from the man and the leadership collective. >>> >>> Do you really have to fish for any silly and anti-Malema article from >>> the >>> papers everyday of your communist life. Surely, you must be getting >>> bored >>> by whatever you do. Really communists are not like that, but what do >>> we >>> get surprised for a communist in this country doing that. The President >>> of >>> the Youth league is not the first one to go through some communists >>> obsession, Dep. President of the ANC did while he was the President as >>> well. >>> >>> As for your nemesis from cope, I would not really take him serious as I >>> do >>> not see any difference bewtween him amd your thinking, but with >>> tolerance >>> and not insults from your minions he should be fine, given the imminet >>> death of cope. THey have issues to deal with through couts of the land >>> that are already full of backlogs of serious cases, not some silly >>> political disagreements. >>> >>> I >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> South Africa's premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm >>> >>> -- >>> You are subscribed. 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