lol gugu,he has big shoes to feel,still getting the grasp of things,hehehe,so goverment hired an incomptent capitalist,then he must be a trainnee goverment spokesperson,this type of platform requires competent people,i didnt say it you said it
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Phuti <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for the corrections with regard to my ill-informed mind "by thinking > everyone can hold any government post"..... I learned 100%. And hence this > forum. > > "Track records are important to us"? Goal displacement took place? To even > those who wrote many "manifesto[s]"- come to think of it, many of us- the > list is long and may (NB) include former President. Indeed some feels, > thanks to the notion 'track record', certain positions belong to them. > > Let me rest my case before you ask about my 'track record'. > > Great weekend comrades. > > Viva!!! > > > On 27 May 2011 12:53, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Phuti, >> >> I wish you attended the Annual TM lecture, definitely you would have not >> erred by thinking everyone can hold any government post. >> >> A spokesperson of an ANC-led government should understand the ANC. >> Probably, you think is an admin officers post, no is one of the top posts >> for an ANC-led government. >> >> Service delivery is suffering because most of DDG's, provincial >> departments HOD's, Senior managements are occupied by people who never read >> the manifesto of the ruling party. What do you expect from such people? >> >> Track records are important to us so that those tasked with ensuring >> delivery of service do it in line with the vision of the ruling party. We >> cannot have the best spokesperson of government who does not have an ANC-led >> Alliance track record. >> >> History tells us that we have failed in some parts because of the people >> we have trusted with delivery and communication thereoff... >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *Phuti <[email protected]> >> *Sender: *[email protected] >> *Date: *Fri, 27 May 2011 12:35:28 +0200 >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: *[email protected] >> *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT JACOB >> GEDLEYIHLEKISA ZUMA-ABOUT GOVERNMENT SPOKESPERSON JIMMY MANYI >> >> This called 'track record in the movement'..... >> >> >> In each one of us there will always be a weakness or two- this attitude or >> tendency of wanting to know other people’s track record is misleading and it >> is this weakness that has characterized some of our reasoning for some time. >> Go quarrel about ‘track record’ in the ‘movement’ in relation to people >> chosen to lead government institutions is wrong- government is not our >> ‘movement’. >> >> >> Also, to characterize one’s viewpoint as a support of an individual is, at >> most awful. >> >> The letter, I think, represent the danger in our media environment. The >> author should meet Jimmy. >> >> >> >> On 27 May 2011 12:20, Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Dear Cde Gugu, >>> >>> Now that you are "out" as a Manyi supporter, could you please motivate >>> why we as SACP members, or just as plain ANC members, should support this >>> capitalist businessman Manyi as a cabinet spokesperson, regardless of what >>> he has said or not said about coloured people or about Trevor Manuel's >>> candidacy for the position of head of the IMF? >>> >>> I mean, what is his track record in the movement, if any? Because all I >>> know is that he has a business career behind him and as far as I know he has >>> never confessed to any involvement in the mass movement, let alone the >>> vanguard. >>> >>> >>> VC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 27 May 2011 12:07, Gugu Ndima <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I agree, >>>> >>>> but overall, I really think that people have become opportunistic in >>>> attacking Jimmy, his assertion on certain issues in gov have been >>>> misconstrued as arrogance..... >>>> >>>> I think he has a certain way of dealing with matters and people should >>>> stop reducing that to slaunder >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Musa Nikani <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Gugu! >>>>> >>>>> I have read this piece and found it to belong to the PR class of first >>>>> years as a Task to be submitted for a Year Mark. We have more things to >>>>> focus on, this is nonsense. I have confidence in President JZ he will >>>>> respond as the author acknowledged in his piece and i quote"Honorable >>>>> president let me again apologise for wasting your time I’m sure >>>>> you have more commitments and engagements as head of state,". I cant >>>>> put facts on this; i wish there was something to discuss; unfortunately >>>>> its >>>>> empty.Thank u. >>>>> >>>>> >>> Gugu Ndima <[email protected]> 05/27/11 11:30 AM >>> >>>>> Guys, >>>>> >>>>> See below, what is your take and I really think people are just out to >>>>> get >>>>> Comrade Jimmy Manyi? >>>>> >>>>> Gugu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT JACOB GEDLEYIHLEKISA ZUMA >>>>> DEAR: Honorable president >>>>> DATE: 27 May 2011 >>>>> >>>>> I’m sorry to bother you at a time when you just concluded your long and >>>>> tiring local government elections campaigns, as well you dealing with >>>>> the >>>>> recent crisis in Libya including the returning of veteran photographer >>>>> Anton >>>>> Hammerl’s corpse to his mother land and of course running our beloved >>>>> nation. >>>>> >>>>> Mr. President I write this letter to inform of you as a patriotic >>>>> citizen of >>>>> South Africa, former journalist, communication practitioner and a >>>>> leader of >>>>> youth and students of this nation. This letter solemnly intends to >>>>> kindly >>>>> request you to save the communication industry from disgrace and >>>>> blasphemy >>>>> fuelled by one of your appointees who is Mr. Jimmy Manyi head of >>>>> government >>>>> communications and information services (GCIS), who also becomes >>>>> spokesperson of the cabinet you preside. >>>>> Let me first indicate that I hold nothing against Mr. Manyi but I >>>>> strongly >>>>> hold contrary views on most of his views in dealing with issues of >>>>> national >>>>> interest like race. I also hold a legitimate view that he is not a >>>>> suitable >>>>> person to speak on decisions and views of your epitome cabinet >>>>> especially >>>>> with his recent conspicuous attacks on journalists and media in >>>>> general. >>>>> In 2010 speaking as president of black management forum (BMF) he said >>>>> “I >>>>> think it's very important for coloured people in this country to >>>>> understand >>>>> that South Africa belongs to them in totality not just the Western >>>>> Cape. So >>>>> this over-concentration of coloureds in the Western Cape is not working >>>>> for >>>>> them. They should spread in the rest of the country... so they must >>>>> stop >>>>> this over-concentration situation because they are in over-supply where >>>>> they >>>>> are so you must look into the country and see where you can meet the >>>>> supply”. >>>>> It’s true he said this outside the scope and the position he holds in >>>>> government, however with strong racial and affirmative action policies >>>>> your >>>>> cabinet represents a person who has wittingly contravened and deterred >>>>> the >>>>> values and ethos of a rainbow nation and prosperous South Africa should >>>>> be >>>>> punished without consideration. I’m also disappointed about the fact >>>>> that >>>>> you kept mum on this when it was in the public which raised eyebrows in >>>>> most >>>>> corners of society about your views on this matter, however I believe >>>>> you >>>>> one amongst many who fought and still strive against racial >>>>> discrimination >>>>> and hate with the contempt it deserves. >>>>> In March 2011 he called a media briefing to announce that there is an >>>>> upcoming government newspaper because of these reasons I quote “The >>>>> media is >>>>> censoring a lot of government information, Niyasivusa ukuba sizenzele >>>>> [You >>>>> are waking us up to do things ourselves]." I have nothing against >>>>> government >>>>> propaganda machinery but it should not be brought about using the media >>>>> as >>>>> scapegoat, especially with the constitutional democracy we all embrace >>>>> and >>>>> known for. He is totally missing the fundamental points of the nature >>>>> and >>>>> character of media operations; he is not playing the game but the man. >>>>> >>>>> In the most recent incident he calls a media briefing to read out a >>>>> statement of two lines regarding the vacant position of international >>>>> monetary fund (IMF), to make matters worse he refuses to deliberate and >>>>> be >>>>> engaged by journalist present at a briefing and chose to bully and >>>>> shrug off >>>>> his ego. This ising his major stakeholders (media), maybe is the people >>>>> surrounding >>>>> him who are misleading him but that’s beside the point I’m making. >>>>> Mr. >>>>> President these are basics for any media personnel, I’m sure even a >>>>> first >>>>> year in my university knows this by now. In fact he should first >>>>> apologise >>>>> to the whole nation, before you do the honorable thing of removing him >>>>> as >>>>> your cabinet spokesperson. >>>>> In the main I request with many other fellow South Africans who share >>>>> the >>>>> same sentiments like me about Mr. Manyi and what he represents and >>>>> stands >>>>> for. I further call upon that you ensure us who are fond of media >>>>> freedom >>>>> and uphold constitutional democracy that you quickly work on revamping >>>>> and >>>>> overhauling the entire communication strategies and channel’s your >>>>> government and cabinet is currently using. This because I believe they >>>>> do >>>>> not meet international standards and the syllabus taught to >>>>> communicators >>>>> currently in South African universities and media institutions is way >>>>> contrary to cabinets understanding of communication, maybe if you could >>>>> appoint and employ qualified communicators and strategisers would >>>>> probably >>>>> be singing a different tune now. >>>>> Honorable president let me again apologise for wasting your time I’m >>>>> sure >>>>> you have more commitments and engagements as head of state, but I urge >>>>> you >>>>> take contents of this letter serious and into consideration as it >>>>> represents >>>>> views of many who could not write a letter. >>>>> I wish you well in your future endeavors >>>>> Masilela Zwelo >>>>> (Pretoria South Africa) >>>>> For more info: [email protected] >>>>> 071 912 4680 >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gugu Ndima >>>>> +27 76 783 1516 >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You are subscribed. 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