Its not JZ & Malema but its YL and ANC...what about democratic centralism?
we should not be so low to allow Media to lead our movement. its also not Vavi or Blade bt the issue is between ANC and YL nobody else the YL is represented by YL NEC and like wise the ANC is represented by ANC NEC, both these NECs are empowered by the their constitution to make decisions between conferences, and responsibilities that comes with those decisions. nobody is above the ANC constitution. people should not cloud issues here, its not COSATU or SACP but YL and ANC. On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Thobela Mahijana <[email protected]>wrote: > Cde Ndinisa, your efforts to write this piece chief are miss directed. > > You have taken so much of your time to say nothing, charging of these cdes > has nothing to do with your campaign > > these cdes are being charged for their detoriating discipline in the > movement and their rotten behavious as custodians > > of the constitution of the ANC and the ANCYL, so dont confuse yourself > cadre becoz you will get lost. > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Ndinisa Maviyo <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> WITH OR WITHOUT MALEMA WE ARE DETERMINED TO ACHIEVE ECONOMICAL FREEDOM >> IN OUR LIFETIME. >> >> The ANC officials decided to charge comrade Julius Malema and comrade >> Floyd including the other officials of the ANCYL and the decision was also >> reaffirmed by the NEC of the ANC. The issue has sparked debate and division >> amongst members, the leagues of the ANC, MDM structure and the society in >> general with different views in terms of what propagated the charges. Some >> think it was caused by the ANCYL call for Nationalisation of mines, we all >> know that the debate around Nationalisation has been obscured by the >> succession battle from the first day because it was attached with names of >> people who is/ are suppose to lead the programme in the ANC without >> themselves publicly pronouncing themselves in favour of nationalisation and >> those who differed with the view or approach of the ANCYL were insulted >> instead of engagement. >> >> We all agree that economic freedom in our life time is paramount to >> liberate the majority of South African from the bondage of poverty, >> especially the youth and the Africans in particular. The Freedom charter >> does agitate for the redistribution of the wealth of the country, the 1990 >> ANC POLICY GUIDELINES FOR A DEMOCRATIC SOUTH AFRICA does mention the issue >> of nationalisation and the expropriation of land, the 52nd conference >> raised frustration around the issue distribution of wealth and land and the >> conference reaffirmed the commitment of the ANC to an intervening >> developmental state. Whether Nationalisation of mines or an intervening >> developmental state is adopted, we are in agreement that a new economical >> order is needed to address the economical imbalances and poverty. Therefore >> the assertion by some leaders of the ANCYL that the charges are informed by >> their call for nationalisation is unfounded, we need to separate the two >> issues so that we do not lose focus on our mission for economical freedom in >> our life time, discipline is paramount for any institution to achieve its >> goals and the ANC is not an exception. >> >> WHETHER A DISCIPLINARY PROCESS OR A POLITICAL SOLUTION? >> >> Some leaders of the ANCYL have called for a political solution instead of >> disciplinary process citing that all this charges were originating from the >> ANCYL views, or the ANC must charge all of them (members of the ANCYL). >> Firstly the ANCYL is not in trial or facing charges, secondly when we join >> the ANC; we join the ANC as individuals and voluntary not as a mob. Thirdly >> these comrades were charged as members of the ANC not as members of the >> ANCYL. Fourthly the ANCYL has apologised, meaning that they accepted the >> transgression of the ANC constitution. >> The ANC National Disciplinary Committee would like to confirm that the >> African National Congress, through its National Officials, served charges >> this morning on two of its members, namely Comrade Julius Malema, who is >> also the President of the ANC Youth League and as well as Comrade Floyd >> Shivambu. Both Comrade Julius Malema and Comrade Floyd Shivambu have been >> charged with various violations of the ANC Constitution, including bringing >> the ANC into disrepute through his utterances and statements on Botswana and >> sowing divisions in the ranks of the African National Congress. >> Comrade Julius Malema addressing the ANCYL provincial council in >> Mpumalanga said people must respect democratic centralism and people must be >> lead. The ANC leadership has spoken on the issue of succession debate and >> the leadership in general, and urged all members of the ANC to refrain from >> discussing leadership because it causes division to the organisation; we >> must all wait until the issue is opened for branches of the ANC to discuss >> and nominate the leadership. The ANC in Limpopo urged members of the ANC to >> refrain from any succession debate; but the president of the ANCYL, a member >> of the ANC NEC and NWC addressing the youth leagues Peter Mokaba rally in >> Vhembe district said Cassel Mathale for second term as chairperson; Namane >> Dickson Masemola should retain his position as the deputy provincial >> chairperson and Soviet Lekganyane must replace ANC provincial secretary Joe >> Maswanganyi in the next ANC provincial elective conference. He also called >> for the leagues to support a president who supports the league’s call for >> the nationalisation of mines. Is that not causing division amongst members >> of the ANC? Is there any clause in the constitution which gives special >> treatment to individuals or which talks of political solution? Should we >> allow the leadership of the ANC to be pronounced in a rally than to be >> nominated by branches? >> After the June ANCYL national elective congress which elected comrade >> Julius for a second term unopposed; branches of the ANCYL and the REC of the >> Ehlanzeni region in Mpumalanga were disbanded for putting the organisation >> into disrepute and it is said some members of the PEC are still going to >> face disciplinary process for their conduct during the PGC and the national >> conference. The REC claimed that it was disbanded because did not support >> comrade Julius for second term and the claims were rubbished by the ANCYL >> PEC and the NEC of the ANCYL. They said misconduct will never be tolerated >> in the organisation and people must take responsibility for their acts, when >> the national secretary of the youth league disbanded the region and its >> branches said the NEC as the highest decision making body in between >> congresses has taken a decision, therefore there is no discussion; members >> must respect democratic centralism, discipline will be enforced and told >> them that some are going face the disciplinary action and members must wait >> for the processes as per the constitution of the ANCYL and indeed this young >> people respected the decision and are still waiting for the processes to be >> finished. Should this region ask for a POLITICAL SOLUTION? Should all the >> comrades who were suspended in the ANCYL under the leadership of Julius be >> given a hearing for a political solution? >> The programme for economical freedom in our lifetime is the resolution of >> the ANCYL and we are determined to achieve it with or without Malema because >> we are an organisation, a collective of leadership not representing >> individual ideas. Let us all respect democratic centralism, respect the >> processes of the constitution as prescribed in the ANC constitution than to >> pre-empt and speculate on the outcome. Let us remember to apply dialectics >> at the expense of materialism; the vanguard will be bound to commit >> mistakes. >> THE ANC LIVES; THE ANC LEADS >> BY MAVIYO NDINISA (072 7481677) >> LET’S ENGAGE >> >> **** ** >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. 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