I can't agree more with u Cde Thembinkosi Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
-----Original Message----- From: Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:18:02 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU’s position on Justic e Mogoeng wrong - Mantashe Cde Thembinkosi and comrades, It is not o.k. to say that COSATU may criticise the Alliance, but that the Alliance may not criticise COSATU. Comrades who do not like the sight of the GS of COSATU and the leader of the DA singing a duet must be at liberty to say so. I doubt if many of us are inclined to believe that Mogoeng Mogoeng is a threat, or a monster, whereas COSATU went so far as to say that Justice Mogoeng should not be any kind of judge at all. We are not obliged to follow COSATU on that. At the same time, I would ask: What else is "proxy", and what is real about this dispute? The bigger dispute is the one concerning People's Power. The interest for the DA, the Institute of Race Relations, Section27, Paul Hoffman, Richard Calland, F W de Klerk and Pierre de Vos is in having the popular majority kept under the thumb of a backward-looking, unelected judicial tyranny. These people thought that Dikgang Moseneke would give them what they wanted, or at least would make constant war on the popular government so as to weaken it and to frustrate it and to prevent any changes happening. So I think we should all be in a mood to rejoice, and maybe just "let the dead bury their dead" on this occasion. VC On 2011/09/06 11:16 AM, Thembinkosi Josopu wrote: > Dear Cdes > I have a problem with the path we seem to be taking as we seem not to > appreciate free thinking and dissent, whenever people disagree with a > certain point, labels are thrown. now we are made to believe that > COSATU is waging a "proxy war", I dont believe so, to me what is > important is arguments which COSATU has put forth. > I also refuse to be part of those who believe that we cannot question > decisions taken by the President and Executive, failure for us doing > so would mean mean decision can be taken willy-nilly without > thorough consideration. the President doesnt have monopoly of wisdom > nor we are a monrachy wherein whatever the King say goes without being > question. I therefore wish to submit that the ANC was supposed to > engage COSATU's arguments and squash them with their own views. > Regards > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:32 AM, <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Is it populist stance when Cosatu did not recomend appointment of > CJ.Cosatu is on record that it supports leadership of Polokwane. > It was Cosatu that pronounced on leadership of JZ before it was > fashionable.Remember after the then President T Mbeki relieved > JZ,Cosatu structures pronounced and vociferously campaigned for JZ > maybe cde you are suffering from amnesia or you are anti Cosatu. > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: *Thobela Mahijana <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > *Sender: *[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Date: *Tue, 6 Sep 2011 08:23:14 +0200 > *To: *<[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > *ReplyTo: *[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] COSATU’s position on Justic e > Mogoeng wrong - Mantashe > > I agree with cde Gwede about the stand of Cosatu on Justice > Mogoeng issue, and that those who oppose the selection of Mogoeng > are against President Zuma not the person opointed, Cosatu must > refrain from this and is not the first time our leaders in Cosatu make > these populist statement unnecesarily, just for them to be seen > deffering with the views of the ANC where such is not neccesary. > > -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] . -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] .
