Hooo, vanguard!lol..
Borrowing words from Cde Boi 'festival of the oppressed' to me translates as an epitome of a hungry man reaching his point..often resulting in a dangerous act, one that seeks to fulfil at the same time liberate: from middle-man or the commodifying of movement. Its a Point of the 'hurly-burly' should we or not? Whose participating, what's the anticipated outcome, who will be there? If not, why not..typical of what has been going on thus far maybe presented differently. Mara, mina.. I am proud of the process taken thus far, alliance or not with or without DA*. Poverty and oppression has no loyal Chomie (Sic) only to self gratification, and that's the drive, be it overtly or covertly so from our leaders, or general mass, the siren has gone off, red alert let's do this! Best, Education shall be compulsory, universal, free and equal for all children! - The Freedom Charter: 1955 - -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 20:09:49 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest Breakaway that's solution! Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 22:03:29 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest Very true this march remains a festival of the oppressed and the exploited and they must bring change to the current social order,my view is ANC shouldnt have released such an attacking statemnt contradicting our hard crafted and canvassed manifesto during our toughest elections ever,NEDLAC is having no bite so let the workers champion their own interests! Boi! Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: Richard <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 21:52:44 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest We shall meet at the march Cdes Sent from my iPhone On 01 Mar 2012, at 6:27 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Oh may I remind you that its actually the "ANC" that has to do that and > Cosatu is reminding us that this is something that we committed to. . .Cosatu > is not in government, however we should never undermine its effort to > transform the lives of workers and influence policy ! > > Are u saying its wasting time tomorrow? > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 19:02:01 +0000 > To: <[email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest > > Comrades, > We are not naïve here maan, the issues that COSATU is raising are genuine. No > one is disputing that, however we must also at times apply honesty, it won't > be long before the very same COSATU shouts: "Let's allow due processes to > unfold. And who knows how long that will be for? Can I be given 1, just 1 > example of a scenario, in the past 18 months where COSATU has actually > challenged Government and actually followed through in advancing the demands > of workers? > > We can discuss till we become blue in the face, reality is: Workers are not > taken seriously. Let's talk after 6-12 months and see whether the strike will > effectively END labour brokering. > * Note END and NOT REGULATE* > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:48:33 +0000 > To: <[email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest > > So because of that argument let's not march against labour brokers?? Do u > have any inclination of the impact of labour brokers in corporate SA ? > > Last month I had three women that came to my office, one 8 months pregnant > who was dismissed without notice , working under a labour broker at SAB! Now > Mr beloved vanguard, must I tell those women that labour broking is there to > stay and they should live with it . And that if they were to decide to join > the march, its best they stay away because the "federation" leading this > march is mischievous and has alterior motives. In other words you are telling > me that we are leaderless and that there is no worker's voice; that is > exactly how I interpret your statement. > > Your bone of contention is evidently with Cosatu leadership and some > skeletons you seem to be better inclined with. I on the other hand sincerely > believe labour brokers should be scrapped and the e-tolling system will have > long term financial implications. The Minister of transport ten years from > now will probably still feel the pinch from where I sit > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 18:25:49 +0000 > To: <[email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest > > Gugu! > > Let's await placards and comments of ordinarily members, then you would > realize the impact made by shopstewards against ANC. Labour Broking does not > differs from shopstewards exploiting its members through various forms of > exploitation its hot out there at shopfloor! > > Check out Nehawu, Denosa and Sadtu! > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:30:49 +0000 > To: <[email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest > > Am not saying that, > > Its not even about the ANCYL! My question is, Cosatu has had this march > planned for a while now-should it stop on the grounds of paranoia within the > MDM???????? > Yes there are issues within the Alliance but fact is Labour broking is a > detrimental issue and e-tollings will have an impact on the cost of living in > SA . . . The YCL has come out in support of the march must we view them with > suspicion??? It seems like you conveniently forgetting the constituency we > serve!! Do you think our factional battles and petty politicking is what's on > their minds right now??? People are being exploited in the retail sector, > construction, mining through labour broking and all you choose to bicker > about is the "supposed" political motives? If there are WHO's fault is it?? > Why is the Alliance not sitting and discussing it???? > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 20:06:46 +0000 > To: <[email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest > > Cadre Gugu, > > Does that mean it must go on a collision course with the ANC? > Cde Gugu, I need not remind you that the ANC is the ruling party and the > ANCYL is its youth wing. > > There is something fishy about this whole thing. I smell a rat somewhere > here. It looks like some people want to fulfill their interests at the poor > worker's expense. > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 17:57:22 +0000 > To: <[email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest > > Cde Gugu > > Not exactly! The thing is aspects raised by COSATU are genuine but behind > such there are political issues which won't find public platform so this > March is not going to achieve its objects due to opportune leaders of COSATU. > > Historically and by charater workers needs to confront its employers like in > many cases SADTU, NUMSA and SAMWU did and strike breakers were same COSATU > Office Bearers and recent action at Rustenburg clearly shows that workers no > longer have confidence on Federation, many affiliates lose membership to > opposing trade union thanks to Vavi!! > > I remain > > Vanguard. > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:58:11 +0000 > To: <[email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest > > Vanguard are u implying that the march is mere opportunism and there are no > genuine issues raised? > > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 17:41:26 +0000 > To: <[email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest > > Of-Course Peaceful! > > COSATU finds itself in dilemma the invitation its a way of accepting that > 2015 Plan does not bear any fruits, precisely that some members don't want > anything to do with politics but issues of workers. > > COSATU at Western Cape has lost to DA cause if its about political party they > would not form part of Marches. Sadly we are in alliance but it was well > calculated move by Vavi whilst also exposing his opportunistic elements in > disguise of championing interest of workers. > > I guess COSATU was going to gain members from such Marches. And what would be > witnessed is confrontations on the marches cause COSATU get comfort to > redicule ANC now its clear that those ANC members joining COSATU would > subject themselves to ANC calling and they won't tolerated hooligans to > direct the March. > > We would March being reduced to something else I bet DA would be laughing and > soon Vavi would be exposed cause Karl Marx warned us long before! > > I pause > > Vanguard! > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 17:04:09 +0000 > To: <[email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest > > Haaike the one of DA iya confusser nge mpela ke... > > What's going on here??? The Party in Gauteng supported e-tolling and now it's > joining... Am I lost or what??? > > Assist me guys... > > ANCYL,SADTU, COSATU,DA, SACP n ANC all involved in one march, one way or > another... > > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:20:36 +0000 > To: <[email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest > > Trying to figure that out too -so as ANC members we shouldn't be part of the > strike ? > Just seeking clarity > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > From: [email protected] > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 16:50:34 +0000 > To: <[email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest > > So in essence, ANC disagrees with the march or what??? > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > From: VC <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 18:16:42 +0200 > To: <[email protected]> > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] ANC Calls for a Peaceful COSATU Protest > > > <ANC no letters.jpg> > > > ANC Calls for a Peaceful Protest by COSATU > > > The African National Congress (ANC) calls on all those who will be embarking > on a protest action organised by COSATU, tomorrow, the 7th March 2012, > against e-tolling and labour brokers, to respect the rights of all those who > will not be participating in the protest action. We also call on COSATU and > all the protestors to ensure that this protest action is peaceful and in > keeping with the laws of our country. > Whilst we acknowledge protest as a right, the ANC is of the view that the > concerns raised by COSATU on the negative impact of tolling of roads on > people who earning less is over exaggerated, especially after government > intervention on the matter. > > We believe that the intervention announced by the Minister of Finance, Pravin > Gordhan, during the Budget speech this year, on the Gauteng Freeway > Improvement Programme, will go a long way to alleviate financial pressure on > the poor and the working class of our country. This matter has been address > with the exemption of public transport ( taxis and buses) from paying the > toll costs. We are happy that the government has made this concession which > mitigates the pressure that would have been borne by this category of low > wage earners. > > The Minister of Finance announced a special appropriation of R5.8 billion for > the 2011/2012 expenditure. This will reduce the debt to be repaid through > the toll system, and will make a steeper discount possible for regular road > users, which includes the working force who use their cars including small > and medium entrepreneurs. The cap of monthly tool fees payment to a maximum > of R550, no matter how many trips a motorist undertakes on the toll route, is > again a clear indication of the government intention to minimise the burden > on the part of consumers. For all these reasons therefore, it is the ANC > absolute view that the protest action is unnecessary, but we nonetheless > respect the right of those who want to protest. > > On the issue of labour brokers, as one of the issues that necessitate this > protest, we are of the view that there are relevant structures, such as the > National Economic Development and Labour Council ( Nedlac), were Organised > Labour, including COSATU, has a seat and influence were such issues can be > discussed and resolved. As the ANC, we are hopeful and confident that > through the NEDLAC process a solution will be found on this matter of labour > brokers. > > Issued by: > Jackson Mthembu > ANC National Spokesperson > > African National Congress > 54 Sauer Street > Johannesburg > 2001 > > 06th February 2012 > -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. 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