Dear Cde Gugu, Let me say that Cde Trevor is a very nice, good-humoured person, and very good company. He is also somebody who studies.
Cde Trevor is also a tough guy who does not pull his punches. If you want to go up against him on any matter, you must play by his rules, or you lose very quickly. The last time I was with Cde Trevor, if I am not mistaken, was in Skeen School in Tsutsumani (time flies!). Maybe you know Tsutsumani. You can look down the hillside from there towards the East Bank of the Jukskei River. On the other side of the valley lies is the whole of Alexandra, and over the top of Alex you can see the high-rise towers of Sandton, situated on the ridge beyond the next valley, the valley of the Sand River. Over there somewhere is Sandown, where Julius Malema is trying to build his mansion. Over there, also, is the head office of Investec. I live about a kilometre away to the South of Tsustsumani, in Lombardy East. From Tsutsumani you can see a lot of things that are typical of South Africa. Cde Trevor posts what he wants to post. So do I. When I post, I always hope to cause a discussion. I expect it is the same with Trevor. Frederick Douglass wrote: “If There Is No Struggle, There Is No Progress”. This is not "attack". It is response. Every response opens the possibility of another round. therefore every response should be your strongest response, provided that it sticks to the matter under discussion, modified by the circumstances. So, thanks for giving me the opportunity to put this all down, Cde Gugu. *VC* On 4 May 2012 16:17, <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > Why is it when Trevor posts something he personally gets attack. I think > we can rip the article apart but not the one posting-very uncomradely! > Insinuating that Trevor is doing this with some perverse intention. > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > ------------------------------ > *From: * Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Fri, 4 May 2012 12:23:44 +0200 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Business Day Editorial: Desperate at > the top > > > Thanks Cde Vincent, you are right, this "front page editorial" in the > Business Day is a lot of nonsense in any case, with or without the > falsification by COSATU of the joint ANC/COSATU statement upon which the > "front page editorial" is largely premised. > > > VC > > > > > On 4 May 2012 12:04, Vincent Masoga <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This article is completely pro DA 's neoliberal attach to the revolution. >> Of course when the revolution is in trial it has to be defended, by the >> securocrat of the legitimate state if needs be. The editor talks about >> factions the he does not even see. He is the one encouraging factionalism >> in the ANC by saying that other members of the NEC should turn again the >> ANC president. That's hogwash what's written here Trevor. Don't read >> newspapers very early in the morning, they will get you confused my friend. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 04 May 2012, at 11:37, "Trevor Kekana" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It is not always clear who runs President Jacob Zuma's strange republic >> due to a poverty of political leadership in the country **** >> >> Published: 2012/05/04 06:43:24 AM **** >> >> NO TWO recent events better illustrate the poverty of political >> leadership in South Africa than the reinstatement of Lt-Gen Richard Mdluli >> as the police’s crime intelligence head despite a raft of charges and >> allegations around him, and the casual way in which the African National >> Congress (ANC) and labour federation Cosatu last week "agreed" to delay >> e-tolling in Gauteng for a month while government lawyers were arguing in >> court that such a delay would be a disaster.**** >> >> This is President Jacob Zuma 's strange republic at work, a place where >> politics trumps principle, the reputations of the state and its officers >> are of little account and where no price is too high to pay for the >> re-election of Mr Zuma as head of his party this year and of the country in >> 2014.**** >> >> Is the president laughing at us? The police force leadership is in >> tatters as his man, Lt-Gen Mdluli, acquires new powers at a dizzying speed >> — one day it is control over VIP protection (all the police who guard >> ministers and can thus tell him who they’ve been seeing), the next he >> becomes the only policeman in the land able to sanction a wire tap. South >> Africa’s credit rating is being directly threatened by Mr Zuma's leadership >> on the Sanral issue. He must have sanctioned the party-union meeting >> despite knowing his finance minister would be left humiliated by any >> decision to delay the start of e-tolling. **** >> >> It was entirely predictable that Cosatu’s political star would rise this >> year, after the ANC Youth League’s falling out with the party’s leadership. >> **** >> >> Without Cosatu’s backing Mr Zuma has little chance of being re-elected at >> the ANC’s conference at Mangaung in December. And, if he loses his grip on >> the levers of power, the odds are that the fraud and corruption charges >> that were controversially withdrawn shortly before the 2009 election that >> elevated him to the Presidency, could be reinstated.**** >> >> Mr Zuma is acutely aware of how much he needs Cosatu. More important, >> Cosatu’s wily general secretary, Zwelinzima Vavi, knows it too. That is >> why, in contrast to 2007 when the union federation threw its weight behind >> Mr Zuma as part of a successful effort to oust Thabo Mbeki as ANC president >> at Polokwane, it now refuses to pin its colours to the mast during the >> buildup to Mangaung.**** >> >> Cosatu felt let down by the Zuma administration after the much-debated >> "lurch to the left" at Polokwane was limited by the practicalities of >> governance, Mr Zuma’s need to placate a range of constituencies with >> contradictory demands, and intense lobbying by the youth league as >> representative of the party’s growing African nationalist faction. Cosatu >> is not about to make the same mistake twice — Mr Zuma is going to have to >> deliver the goods before he gets paid off this time.**** >> >> This, of course, is how politics works the world over. But the fact that >> it is not unusual does not mean its profoundly negative economic, political >> and constitutional consequences should not be exposed. And, such political >> expediency cannot be allowed to legitimise a cynical abuse of state >> institutions for party or individual benefit. There is, unfortunately, >> mounting evidence of both occurring in South Africa at present.**** >> >> The government’s botched implementation of the Gauteng Freeway >> Improvement Project provided Cosatu with an ideal opportunity to flex its >> muscles. Since public transport was excluded from the e-tolling system, the >> vast majority of the revenue that would have been collected would have come >> from businesses and the wealthier 40% of Gauteng’s population, not >> predominantly from the "workers" Cosatu counts as its constituency.**** >> >> Nevertheless, the toll road concept is unpopular across class groups in >> Gauteng, and just days before the e-toll gantries were scheduled to go live >> on May 1, Cosatu strong-armed the ANC into "discussions" on the issue with >> the threat of a national strike. With not even a pretence of >> differentiating between party and state, the ANC caved in and announced >> that the launch would be delayed by a month for further consultation.**** >> >> That the high court granted an urgent interdict against the >> implementation of the system subject to a full review only hours later, >> does not change the fact that the ANC blinked first. Even as state lawyers >> were arguing that delaying it would be financially disastrous, the party >> was glibly humiliating Pravin Gordhan by elevating the political interests >> of one of its factions above the Treasury’s standing.**** >> >> Similarly, while it is abundantly clear that the inflexibility of the >> labour market is preventing businesses from hiring more young people in >> particular, this does not suit Cosatu’s agenda of defending existing >> workers’ rights at all costs. Hence its loud opposition to the proposed >> labour law amendments that are now before Parliament.**** >> >> It emerged earlier in the week that another cozy "discussion" with the >> ANC has resulted in agreement that clauses requiring that ballots be held >> before strikes can begin, and expanding the list of essential service work >> categories whose right to strike is limited, will be scrapped. If this is >> endorsed by ANC MPs it will make a complete mockery of the long negotiation >> process recently in the National Economic Development and Labour Council. >> **** >> >> The question should be asked: who runs this country? The democratically >> elected government, a particular faction of the ruling party, or Cosatu? Or >> is it the small group of securocrats Mr Zuma has surrounded himself with in >> his desperate bid to keep out of the courts?**** >> >> The vicious power struggle that is playing out at present between police >> management, crime intelligence and the prosecuting authorities is a >> chilling reminder that the abuse of state institutions that was ostensibly >> Cosatu’s prime motivation for removing Mr Mbeki, has got worse, not better, >> under Mr Zuma.**** >> >> The manner in which investigations into the alleged criminal activities >> of Lt-Gen Mdluli have repeatedly been stymied, and those trying to follow >> due process have been undermined, points to political intervention at the >> highest level. The situation has become untenable — a prosecutor has been >> shot at; the very future of the rule of law and democratic accountability >> is at stake. **** >> >> Yet Lt-Gen Mdluli has not only been reinstated to his powerful position, >> but it emerges he has been handed sole responsibility for the police’s >> covert phone-tapping activities. It was just such an intelligence tape that >> was used — almost certainly illegally — by Mr Zuma’s lawyers to persuade >> prosecutors to drop the corruption charges he faced.**** >> >> The flagrant disregard for the constitutional safeguards that are >> supposed to check individual power in our democracy has got to stop before >> irreparable damage is done.**** >> >> But it is clear it won’t be Mr Zuma who does the stopping. Why do other >> senior ANC leaders sit on their hands while the freedom they fought for is >> sacrificed to save one man’s skin?**** >> >> Like Cosatu, they are apparently hedging their bets as they manoeuvre in >> preparation for the showdown at the end of the year. But by then it could >> be too late for them and South Africa. They have a tiger by the tail and >> will have to be extremely agile if they wish to avoid being eaten as soon >> as they have outlived their usefulness.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> <http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=170988> >> http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/Content.aspx?id=170988**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> <http://www.investec.com/legal/email-disclaimer.html> >> http://www.investec.com/legal/email-disclaimer.html >> >> The disclaimer also provides our corporate information and names of our >> directors as required by law. >> >> The disclaimer is deemed to form part of this message in terms of Section >> 11 of the Electronic Communications and Transactions Act 25 of 2002. >> If you cannot access the disclaimer, please obtain a copy thereof from us >> by sending an email to: <[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. 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