Cde Vusi, it is not about sex or adultery, it is about taking advantage of an employee, a subordinate. This cannot be tolerated in any general way. It's not acceptable but we are being forced to accept it in the case of Vavi.
Gozolo above refers to the people at the top running the organisation. But it is Vavi who is running the organisation. Even with this DC, Vavi ran ahead with his tweet and his statement to announce the results before the DC chair could say anything. Some may say that the President and the two Deputy Presidents of COSATU are higher than Vavi but this is exactly the problem - Vavi ignores them and he has been doing so for a long time, with impunity. You contradict yourself, by the way. The very case you mention, that of Goniwe, proves you wrong. When it was work-related, the man was made to walk. Sex is not illegal, but taking advantage of subordinates is not o.k., Cde Vusi. VC On 30 July 2013 00:21, Vusi Nzapheza <[email protected]> wrote: > Cdes, how many leaders in our movement have been caught with their > pants down and they apologised to the nation, their wives and the > Alliance and are still in office today. I can only remember that in > the last few years, former ANC chief whip in Parliament was found > guilty by a ethics committee for making advances to surbonate and he > took the fall and was suspended. While circumstances vary in each > case, there's at least two serving Ministers who committed adultery > despite being married and no action was taken against them, including > the president of the ANC. It would seem that the only realistic case > Cosatu can pursue against the SG is the manner he recruited and hired > the complainant......i.e, without following due processes. And Im sure > there the union will be guided by existing policies if a charge is > pursued. The complainant has fuelled suspicion against her motives by > taking so long to report the incident and the withdrawal of the > grievance on Monday does not help her either. Cde Vavi is well within > his rights to lay a charge against her in order to clear his name and > here it is up to the courts deal with the matter and decide whether > indeed the complainant sought to make financial gain from the episode. > > On 7/29/13, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > @Mantshi > > You have summarized it in a well sound manner VC is barking on the wrong > > tree because in this case Vavi himself told the world they had consensual > > sex in their working space whether it was during their spare time I do > not > > know. But why should there be someone to lodge a complaint when he > confessed > > publicly? Isn't it those who are with him at the top running the > > organization should react to his confession? I see no need for them to > wait > > for someone to complain at all. VC let the matter rest > > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > > > -- *Communist University:* *CU Downloads*: *sites.google.com/site/cu2012courses/* *E-mail forums*: *CU <https://groups.google.com/group/communist-university>*; *YCLSA <https://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum>*; *CU-Africa<https://groups.google.com/group/CUAfrica> *; *SADTU <https://groups.google.com/group/sadtu-political-education-forum>* *Blog*s: *CU <http://domza.blogspot.com/>*; *YCLSA<http://wftu-yclsa-cu-jhb.blogspot.com/> *; *CU-Africa <http://cuafrica.blogspot.com/>*; *SADTU<http://sadtu-pol-ed.blogspot.com/> * *Moderator*: *[email protected]* -- -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. You can visit the group WEB SITE at http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, pages, files and membership. To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to this address (repeat): [email protected] . --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "YCLSA Discussion Forum" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
