Making your own! You can have it added to the layer index for better publicity.
Alex On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 at 13:27, Yishai Jaffe <yishai1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What layer would you suggest? > > Yishai Jaffe > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 2:21 PM Alexander Kanavin <alex.kana...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> You can start by placing it in a separate layer? >> >> Alex >> >> On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 at 13:04, Yishai Jaffe <yishai1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > I assume by core you mean openembedded-core/poky, yes? >> > >> > So where would you add it to? >> > >> > Seems to me like a very useful feature that many people would use if they >> > knew the option exists. >> > >> > Also, I noticed that in the recipe for python there is a variable named >> > INCLUDE_PYC which does exactly what you think it would. This looks to me >> > like someone did think about the whole python size subject but didn't >> > exactly go through with it all the way. You can decide if to include pyc >> > files but not the opposite. Also, this feature which does exist only >> > applies to the python recipe but not to all other non-base python module >> > recipes. Maybe this can be added to setuptools3 bbclass? >> > >> > Yishai Jaffe >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 1:24 PM Alexander Kanavin <alex.kana...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I just wonder if this should really be in core. The standards for core >> >> are high: it needs to be both testable and tested, and there's only so >> >> many possible options and tweaks where things can regress that we can >> >> take. On the other hand, there has not been much demand for it. >> >> >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 at 12:13, Yishai Jaffe <yishai1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hi Alexander, >> >> > >> >> > After some research, these are the numbers I came up with for compiling >> >> > core-image-minimal with python3-core: >> >> > >> >> > Normal compilation: >> >> > tar.bz2 - 6.6MB >> >> > squashfs-xz - 6.1MB >> >> > >> >> > With my pyc-only patch: >> >> > tar.bz2 - 5.8MB >> >> > squashfs-xz - 5.2MB >> >> > >> >> > So that's about a 15% decrease in size. >> >> > Again, this is for an image only with python3-core. Logically that >> >> > would mean that if you had an image with more python packages it would >> >> > be even a bigger percentage. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Yishai Jaffe >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 5:12 PM Alexander Kanavin >> >> > <alex.kana...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Generally we slim down python installations by not installing all of >> >> >> the standard library, and rather having precise dependencies for >> >> >> specific modules. Can you illustrate the kind of space savings that >> >> >> can be gained in actual numbers? >> >> >> >> >> >> Another issue is that this should be supported upstream and in the >> >> >> wider python community. Is it? >> >> >> >> >> >> Alex >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 at 14:25, Federico Pellegrin <f...@evolware.org> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Hello, >> >> >> > Just as a small reference since I raised some doubts and questions >> >> >> > in Buildroot community on this: there has been also some troubles to >> >> >> > understand the correctness or not there (as I found some packages >> >> >> > with problems due to this source-less management) and this then >> >> >> > sparked, besides discussions in the Buildroot mailing list (roughly >> >> >> > end of July / beginning of August if someone interested searching >> >> >> > there), also an issue to the Python community, which albeit some >> >> >> > discussion I think never arrived to a concrete conclusion. This is >> >> >> > the issue: https://github.com/python/cpython/issues/95827 (see also >> >> >> > the linked one maybe) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > These are just my 2 cents to this discussion, then of course the >> >> >> > Python experts will probably chime in and describe the >> >> >> > official/discussed position of Yocto regarding to this, but just >> >> >> > felt like mentioning that although Buildroot is somehow offering >> >> >> > this right now (and likely mostly works as well!), it's not really a >> >> >> > so clean and/or agreed solution. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Cheers, >> >> >> > Federico >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Il giorno dom 13 nov 2022 alle ore 13:55 Yishai Jaffe >> >> >> > <yishai1...@gmail.com> ha scritto: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I was wondering if there has been talk about support for >> >> >> >> source-less python on an image. Installing py and pyc files doubles >> >> >> >> the size of python on the rootfs. I can imagine this being >> >> >> >> implemented as an image feature. >> >> >> >> I know that in buildroot it is supported. >> >> >> >> Was this discussed and decided against? Is this an open issue? >> >> >> >> I have a working patch that implements this. I can submit it for >> >> >> >> review. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Yishai Jaffe >> >> >> >> Yishai Jaffe >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >
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