I forgot to say, one thing that bothers me a bit in Yojimbo is that Tag Collections are not treated the same way as 'regular' Collections, in the sense that you can't drag and drop stuff into a Tag Collecion as you can do with a regular Collection.
I think that it would be natural to expect either that if you drag an item into a tag collection, it would be automatically tagged as to fit in that collection. Cheers, -Paulo On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Paulo Diniz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great discussion here, I'm pretty sure that it isn't the purpose of the > list, but i think it`s important to discuss organization methods. Like said > below, we're so busy most of the time dealing with what is given to us (a > third of the time, or whatever) and also actually DOING stuff, that we don't > take the time to step back and think outside of the box on what's really > needed to sort the mess of our lives. > > I, for one, am still searching for my ultimate system, and have, in the > past, written drafts/specs of an ideal organization software. Those drafts > are availiable at: > > http://notariussystem.blogspot.com/ > > My most recent post (the only recent post, that is) offers a good abstract > of what i'm searching for. If anyone is interested enough, please take a > look on it. As time goes, i plan to detail it further. > > Cheers, > > -Paulo > > > On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Luis Roca < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Keith > > I'm not getting a sense that your sincerely happy for me. Maybe I'm just > > a little insecure. I don't know but this is neither the time or the > > place for that discussion. : ) > > > > Scott responded to this but since you directed it at me it's only fair > > that I give you an answer. I N-E-V-E-R said I use or would suggest to > > use Yojimbo as a total GTD tool. There is NO total GTD tool, not > > OmniFocus, not Things, not kGTD, not Entourage, etc. You're right > > Yojimbo is part of my system (the archive). That's all any piece of > > software can hope to be, a part of a complete system. This is > > repeated throughout the book beginning in the preface. > > > > There are people on this list that use Yojimbo as their primary process > > and review tool within their daily GTDing. I'm honestly not sure how > > effective it can be over a long period of time but I'd love to hear more > > about it. > > > > > Everything else ends up in the *correct* folder. > > > > > > There is such a thing as the *correct* folder as there are such > > > things as objective hierarchies -- ones which capture real > > > relationships between things. You can think of genus-species > > > groupings in biology, or project-file groupings in your work. Where > > > such groupings exist, a hierarchical file structure has real value, > > > but they take some thinking about to be stable/valuable-- which is > > > why the profession of 'librarian' exists for one. > > > > Carlton, > > You make excellent points and I find it interesting that you're using > > Yojimbo as an inbox where you go back to identify/process the > > information at a later date. It's much different than how I use it and > > seems like a solid system. You hit at the initial point that I was > > trying to make which was the importance of the initial identification > > process of a digital asset. > > > > I do have to respectfully disagree with the idea of a *correct* folder. > > I'm not saying it doesn't exist or can't be part of a larger > > organizational system. I just think this method can easily (and often > > does) break down when a second user is introduced to the system. > > > > Everyone on this list has probably had the uncomfortable sensation of > > starting a new job and being welcomed with a new folder structure to > > learn. Your'e at the mercy of whoever decided on the file and folder > > naming structure (Who may not even be with the company anymore). > > Tags,notes/comments, saved searches, etc. offer a solution that tech > > savy librarians and information architects have been promoting recently. > > (*See : "Ambient Findability" by Peter Morville and > > "Keeping Found Things Found" by William Jones) > > > > Anyone and everyone can name an item without stepping on your coworker > > or boss' toes. You name an item in a meaningful way to you, and others > > get to do the same. A new employee can find a file in a shorter period > > of time and without having to shamefully ask her cubicle mate when > > searching for file 03.5248-Financials.doc that's buried in a seven level > > folder structure on the external corporate database. > > > > I've read that the average professional spends a third of their week > > looking for information that they have previously encountered! So as > > well as folders have worked for some people, more fluid systems need to > > be put in place for the rest of us. > > > > I've helped turn this into exactly what I didn't want > > - The Continuing Saga of Nested Folders - > > It ends here! > > : ) Luis > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > > the mailing list <email@example.com>. > > To unsubscribe, send mail to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > List archives: <http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso> > > Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working > > correctly? Please send mail to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >