I have also seen the ³disappearing draft² problem, but could not conceive
that it was an Entourage problem, rather than me as a user.

I agree re wholeheartedly regarding data integrity.  A less functional but
more reliable client (e.g. Mail) is preferable, particularly when taken in
the context of the preferred ³Apple Walled Garden² backup, i.e. Time
Machine.  Alternatively, and at a price, Outlook may do the job.



On 05/10/2010 16:48, "Julian Vrieslander" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have posted several rants to this list about my dissatisfaction with
> various parts of the Entourage user interface.  But I have stayed with
> Entourage because some of the other features work very well: AppleScript
> support, text cleanup options, mailing list management, etc.
> 
> The ugly icons and the rough edges in parts of the UI are annoying but
> tolerable.  Losing or misplacing data is not tolerable.  There have been
> several instances where I spent a long time carefully composing a complex
> email to someone, saved it as a draft, and then saw it disappear from
> Entourage when I tried to send it.  The message was not mailed, and there
> was no sign of it anywhere in the database.  In each case, I had to
> recompose the message from scratch, wasting hours of time.  Perhaps I hit
> the wrong key combination, causing them to be deleted accidentally.  But
> there were no confirmation alerts ("Are you sure you want to permanently
> delete?").  This has happened several times to me over the last few years.
> I've asked this list for an explanation, with no answers.
> 
> The other worrisome issue appeared relatively recently.  In fact, it
> happened again this morning.  I ran a check for new mail.  As the inbox for
> my personal IMAP account was updating (with new headers flashing in the
> message list) I noticed a couple of messages from an important business
> associate.  But when the update was complete, those message headers were
> missing from the list.  I ran another check for new mail, and they were
> still missing.  FYI, my inbox is sorted by "Received", with most recent at
> the top.  Eventually, I was able to make the headers appear, by bringing up
> the Entourage Find dialog (cmd-option-F) and searching for the sender's
> name.  That caused the inbox message list to update and show the headers.
> 
> When I got to work, I had a similar experience on the Mac in my office,
> which runs the same versions of Mac OS X (10.6.4) and Entourage (12.2.6).
> After the new mail check, the messages from my associate were not displayed.
> I looked at the web mail page for my email provider (FastMail.fm), and the
> messages were displayed there.  They were also displayed by the Mail app on
> my iPhone 4.  They eventually appeared on my office installation of
> Entourage, but only after I ran through all my message lists, flipping the
> various headers and sort controls, and running more mail checks.  I don't
> know what I did to cause the missing messages to appear.
> 
> These are pretty serious issues.  If Entourage cannot reliably detect an
> important incoming message, or if it loses drafts before I can send them,
> then I need a different email client.
> 
> I am probably one of the most loyal users of Entourage.  I have been with it
> since the original incarnation as Claris Emailer 1.0.  I will be installing
> Office 2011, because it is site-licensed by my employer and necessary for my
> work.  But I will switch to Apple Mail if I continue to see the problems
> described above, or if the long-promised update for iPhone calendar sync
> does not work well.

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