I see... the last time I checked your ZB pages they wheren't up yet 
so I guess I'll have to look at them sometime.

The H1 case is nice, it only has 4 algs to learn and two of them are 
related (swap the first and second half of the alg). I think 
recognition for these are the easiest of all the ZBLL no CP cases.

For the Pi1 cases, I first look if the edge between "the pair" (in 
bld lingo) is in place or not and then grip it as necessary. Though 
I must admit that the recognition is very difficult here. I take 3s 
to figure it out, but I've only recently learned these. In fact I 
forgot them all this morning, lol. The only confusing one (although 
really confusing) for me is the 3 edge cycle cases where it's 1 alg 
for 4 distinct cases.


--- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> Yes sorry, I didnt think that people would pay much attention to 
> names.
> The scheme is very simple, to determine the case you look at the 
>  case which you have (and I use Ron's scheme to determine the coll)
> Then you need to identify the 12 sub-cases using the edges. x/y 
> you would look at FU and FUR stickers/RUF and RU stickers, and 
> them to one another. C means the colours match, O means opposite, 
> A means adajcent. There is a more detailed description on my ZB 
> where the algs for the T orient are.
> This is nice because it breaks every step down into recognising a
> pattern. I'm not sure exactly what I am going to do for the cases
> where there are 4 twisted corners... but we'll cross that bridge 
> we come to it :) Perhaps all we need to do is look at a different 
> Sorry this post is pretty vague, but it's late and I want to go to
> bed, getting up early to fly to Hungary tomorrow!
> Dan :) - team[zb] :D
> --- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >
> > I don't understand the naming you choose. I am assuming all 
> > cases are for the no CP cases.
> > 
> > I like your first two. It's actually the only ones in this group 
> > have yet to learn.
> > I would have done something horrible like (R'B2)(L2U2'F)(UF'U)
> > (R). I'll have to adapt yours.
> > 
> > I haven't gone through each and every one of these, but I do use 
> > some different algs:
> > Like
> > > OPPX = R' U2 R2 U R' U' R2 U R U' R' U R2 U R2 U' R'
> > I do zU'(R'UR'U')(R2U)z'(R'U2)(RUR'U)R.
> > 
> > As for determining which case, I have to pre-adjust the U layer 
> > first so that the corners are in place. Then I check for
> > 
> > no EP (I have a very fast alg for that);
> > 
> > the H-EP (I do a triple sune here);
> > 
> > one of the Z-EPs (the one above is the default CLL I have been 
> > for ages, it is a Sune/Sune combination) I will do the analogous 
> > Antisune/Antisune combination in the other Z case.
> > 
> > What's left are the 3-cycle cases. I sort of do the following: 
> > it so that I see both LL face colors on the side (holding it on 
> > diagonal), then I look at the edge that needs to go opposite 
> > it is now. If it needs to come towards me I think "in", if it 
> > to go away I think "out". Next I make note of how many of those 
> > edges in front are out of place.
> > 
> > So I would call them "in1","in2","out1", "out2". The nice thing 
> > about this way of thinking about it is that the "in's" are the 
> > alg but inverse and so are the "out's".
> > 
> > I use a Sune/Sune combination for my "out1" case, and an 
> > Antisune/Antisune combination for my "out2" case. I started 
> > incorporating this into my solves right after WC.
> > 
> > The "in" cases I have yet to learn, seeing as I have a terrible 
> > for it. The non-3cycle ones I have been actively using since b4 
> > Toronto, so I have mastered those.
> > 
> > I am curious aobut your naming scheme here.
> > 
> > 
> > -Doug
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > L - BR
> > >     LB
> > > 
> > > O/A = R U2 R U R2 U R' U' R U R' U2 R' U R'
> > > O/C = R U' R U2 R U' R' U R U' R2 U' R' U2 R'
> > > O/O = R U2 R' U' R U R' U' R U R' U' R U' R'
> > > 
> > > A/C = R U R2 U' R' U2 R U2 R' U2 R' U R' U2 R
> > > A/A left = R' U2 R U' R U2 R U2 R' U2 R U R2 U' R'
> > > A/A right = U R2 U R' U' R2 U' R U R U2 R U' R U' R2
> > > A/O = U R2 U R' U' R' U R U R' U R U' R U' R2 (16,18)
> > > 
> > > C/A = R2 U R' U R' U2 R' U' R' U R2 U R U' R2
> > > C/O = R2 U R' U R' U' R U' R' U' R U R U' R2 (16,18)
> > > C/C = R U2 R' U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R U R' (16,20)
> > > 
> > > OPPX = R' U2 R2 U R' U' R2 U R U' R' U R2 U R2 U' R' (17,22)
> > > ADJX = R2 U2 R U' R U R' U2 R U2 R' U R' U' R U2 R (17,22)
> > > 
> > > Dan :)
> > >
> >

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