--- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > That said, I think I may hold off on learning much more ZBF2L at the > > moment, and switch to learning more ZBLL. If my F2L average is 14 or > > 15, and my normal average is a little over 20, that means my LL is > > taking entirely too long. I think I may start with the rest of the > > correctly permuted corner cases for each orientation, starting with > > the L case (because I already know a few of those). > > 5-6 seconds for LL isn't bad. I am pretty sure mine isn't much faster > than that. :) > > ~ Bob

It just hurts me to look up during a solve and see that I have a fantastic F2L and still be hampered by a slow LL to wind up with a 20+ solve. Besides that, I know that the LL is where most of the moves in a solve are saved, and that using VH+some corner control is helping to make up for not knowing full ZBF2L. -Mike team [zb] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/MXMplB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zbmethod/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/